News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Zed Shaw Explains How Stripe Is PayPal Circa 2010 by spinlock on Sunday October 09, 2022 @12:17PM (#33142615)
5% is huge. Like, ban your business from taking credit cards huge.
Re:Zed Shaw Explains How Stripe Is PayPal Circa 2010 by Brystephor on Sunday October 09, 2022 @12:46PM (#33142857)
Yep. Anything greater than 1% is leading to trouble such as huge fees or being kicked off a card network.
Re:Zed Shaw Explains How Stripe Is PayPal Circa 2010 by gary_0 on Sunday October 09, 2022 @12:48PM (#33142879)
So you're saying all I need to do to knock a business offline is spam it with enough fraudulent CC numbers?
Re:Zed Shaw Explains How Stripe Is PayPal Circa 2010 by jacobolus on Sunday October 09, 2022 @01:19PM (#33143219)
Yes you might be able to do that, at the risk of some personal liability because this is illegal. It’s also grossly unethical.

If your fraud has a large enough monetary value, large enough scale, or you work with another person on it, you can get hit with a serious felony charge and end up in prison for a few years. Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer or expert on credit card fraud.

Re:Zed Shaw Explains How Stripe Is PayPal Circa 2010 by Kamq on Sunday October 09, 2022 @05:58PM (#33145723)
I think people don't realize how much of the economy relies on agreements to not be a piece of shit.

Sort of like the highway system relies on an agreement not to play bumper-cars. There's nothing actually stopping anyone.

Re:Zed Shaw Explains How Stripe Is PayPal Circa 2010 by jolux on Monday October 10, 2022 @12:59AM (#33147927)
> There's nothing actually stopping anyone.

Self-preservation.

Re:Zed Shaw Explains How Stripe Is PayPal Circa 2010 by 411111111111111 on Monday October 10, 2022 @02:23AM (#33148387)
Why do I suddenly feel the need to buy a monster truck and take it for a spin at a highway?
Re:Zed Shaw Explains How Stripe Is PayPal Circa 2010 by kelseyfrog on Sunday October 09, 2022 @06:01PM (#33145736)
We're actually working to provide this functionality as a service but it's currently stealth so I can't get into much more detail.
Re:Zed Shaw Explains How Stripe Is PayPal Circa 2010 by herbst on Monday October 10, 2022 @04:06AM (#33148973)
This is exactly the big issue no one is talking about. We are putting more and more pseudo security in customer protection but as a seller I am always in constant danger.

A chargeback with stripe costs like $15 for the seller. Even if the charge was only $1.5. Imagine the monetary problems you could create and the seller has no other way than to pay and hope to not get banned.

Re:Zed Shaw Explains How Stripe Is PayPal Circa 2010 by franga2000 on Monday October 10, 2022 @06:41AM (#33149814)
Yup, that's an attack that exists and is used regularly. It's not trivial to pull off, but is easy/accessible enough that competitors will sometimes do this to each other's web shops (I've heard of two cases of this just in last 3 years and that's in a city of only 300k people).
Re:Zed Shaw Explains How Stripe Is PayPal Circa 2010 by pardon_me on Sunday October 09, 2022 @04:35PM (#33145069)
I have seen a business run with this dealing with mobile phones targeted by organised fraudsters. Moving "too fast" to notice and whoops profit is £0.2m not £3m.