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Re:Young woman with PTSD who survived Brussels airport terro... by imwillofficial on Sunday October 09, 2022 @11:40AM (#33142257)
Absolute barbarism
Re:Young woman with PTSD who survived Brussels airport terro... by chasil on Sunday October 09, 2022 @11:51AM (#33142362)
I am a U.S. citizen, and I don't know how I feel about this.

Suicide is variously reported to be the tenth leading cause of death. Permitted or not, the numbers are enormous.

https://www.healthline.com/health/leading-causes-of-death

I do not live in a jurisdiction where assisted suicide is legal.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_suicide_in_the_Unit...

We can judge it to be barbaric, but we cannot stop it.

For as far as I believe, I think we should try to understand it more thoroughly, in the hope of bringing the numbers down.

If we are in denial, we may be overlooking those who can be saved.

Re:Young woman with PTSD who survived Brussels airport terro... by JoeAltmaier on Sunday October 09, 2022 @11:57AM (#33142415)
I'm not sure how to think about this either.

The statistics show we may be doing OK on this already. Consider: for every suicide death there are 40 that make the attempt but are caught and treated. And nearly 300 that thought about it but didn't (hotline, friend etc intervened?)

https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/suicide-data-statistics.html

Re:Young woman with PTSD who survived Brussels airport terro... by BrandoElFollito on Sunday October 09, 2022 @12:09PM (#33142535)
I completely agree with you. She had to go though way too many hoops to be able to do whatever she wants with her own life.

I am with you that we must have human laws that treat people like adults and not toddlers and facilitate their rightful choices.

Re:Young woman with PTSD who survived Brussels airport terro... by imwillofficial on Sunday October 09, 2022 @09:07PM (#33146815)
Society has limits on what an adult can and cannot do. Go try to own a nuclear weapon and see what happens.

From drugs we put in our bodies to what pets we can own. We as a western society have decided there are limits on what even adults are allowed to do.

The line is where we argue.

Tia is a different league. Here was a woman that was in a terrible state not known for good choices or good longer term decision making. Add on to that she is on anti depressants that are known to cause suicidal ideation.

This is not a platform for a sound choice.

Re:Young woman with PTSD who survived Brussels airport terro... by BrandoElFollito on Monday October 10, 2022 @04:24AM (#33149081)
JJ Rousseau said that an individual freedom stops when it threatens the freedom of others.

So having a nuclear weapon is not allowed because you can hurt me.

To some extend drugs may not be allowed because at the end of the day it is the general population that will have to pay for it.

Anything else, including the ability to kill yourself or have someone kill you is up to the individual. Not allowing this is crel and patronising. Worse: people who want to kill themselves will do that in a painful or incomplete way and suffer even more.

As for your last comment: this is the gray area we can argue. I am in favour of letting people choose freely but I can understand that temporary states may lead to a decision which is ultimately not good for the individual. This is very difficult to quantify, though.

The good thing, though, is that one you are dead, you are dead. It is not like you tell yourself that it was a bad decision.