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Re:Zed Shaw Explains How Stripe Is PayPal Circa 2010 by ksec on Sunday October 09, 2022 @07:03AM (#33139895)
>People really, really, hate Peter Thiel and Elon Musk.

This coming from Zed Shaw at least carries more weight than me ranting about this observation on HN.

One of the thing listed in the article that had me really worry was chargeback. And it seems to be quite common in Stripe world. In low margin world $15 is quite a lot unless you have volume.

Re:Zed Shaw Explains How Stripe Is PayPal Circa 2010 by pavlov on Sunday October 09, 2022 @08:35AM (#33140423)
Corporations really want you to believe that grassroots personal boycotts are ineffective and a waste of time, but the truth is much more complicated.

Enough people boycott PayPal to make a web developer choose another payment product. He writes about it on HN which amplifies the boycott’s message to tens of thousands of readers. Some of them will join the boycott. PayPal’s PR department is presumably unhappy about this reason now coming up in searches like “PayPal vs Stripe.” And it didn’t take any centralized organizing.

Re:Zed Shaw Explains How Stripe Is PayPal Circa 2010 by smca_ on Sunday October 09, 2022 @09:18AM (#33140693)
(Sam from Stripe here.) The customer's bank (not Stripe) levies a $15 fee to process the dispute.

If you win the dispute, we credit you $15 because we feel it's the right thing to do.

Re:Zed Shaw Explains How Stripe Is PayPal Circa 2010 by jbverschoor on Sunday October 09, 2022 @09:56AM (#33141057)
No.. because the merchant is paying for those fees. Not the customer / consumer.

You might have different agreements, because you negotiated lower prices because supposedly you have better fraud detection etc.. But that's not the same as "because we feel it's the right thing to do".

On the side of the merchant you do the same.. with "Stripe Chargeback Protection", but you charge for that.

You took a part of the bank's/card's business (risk management), and that's fine, but please don't tell us stripe is doing things because you feel anything.