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Re:The gangs that kidnap Asians and force them to commit cyb... by woodruffw on Saturday October 08, 2022 @11:57PM (#33138163)
I also found it confusing, but I don't think the Economist was trying to "make it racial." I think they were trying (and not succeeding) to succinctly express this sentence, in TFA:

> The schemes are organised by ethnic-Chinese gangs, which sometimes collaborate with their local counterparts, says Jeremy Douglas of the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime.

Re:The gangs that kidnap Asians and force them to commit cyb... by SanjayMehta on Sunday October 09, 2022 @12:21AM (#33138246)
The Economist's propaganda is usually much more subtle than this particular instance.

Despite their neutral style, it occasionally leaks out, as in this instance. More often, it leaks out in their podcast, where the tone of voice used conveys their bias.

Re:The gangs that kidnap Asians and force them to commit cyb... by sateesh on Sunday October 09, 2022 @03:45AM (#33138959)
What is their propoganda and bias , curious to know.
Re:The gangs that kidnap Asians and force them to commit cyb... by SanjayMehta on Sunday October 09, 2022 @04:07AM (#33139027)
The usual sly British games with the English language.

I first noticed it when they were ranting (very politely, of course) about some Indian policy change. They never said "the Indian government;" it was always "Modi's nationalist party."

There was another example where their podcast was playing the sounds of various religions. For church bells, the speaker said "who'd want to live next to that," and for other demographics, he'd say "ah lovely."

Re:The gangs that kidnap Asians and force them to commit cyb... by thevagrant on Sunday October 09, 2022 @04:32AM (#33139122)
Do you think this is propaganda? Perhaps it is just a bias of the writer or editor (speaker in case of podcast).
Re:The gangs that kidnap Asians and force them to commit cyb... by sofixa on Sunday October 09, 2022 @04:49AM (#33139188)
> The usual sly British games with the English language.

> I first noticed it when they were ranting (very politely, of course) about some Indian policy change. They never said "the Indian government;" it was always "Modi's nationalist party."

What sly British language? They do the same when talking about other countries - Liz Truss, Kwarteng and the Tories, Biden and the Democrats, Macron, etc. It's pinning political actions on the people and factions responsible instead of obscuring them behind a faceless "the government".

Re:The gangs that kidnap Asians and force them to commit cyb... by just_boost_it on Sunday October 09, 2022 @07:26AM (#33140006)
Ya, those people _are_ the government. They would love to be able to fob all their problems off on some faceless beaurocracy (like the UK government did with the EU for years), but the buck stops with them. We should be challenging our leaders' priorities and the outcomes of their decisions (and not just in democratic countries) .
Re:The gangs that kidnap Asians and force them to commit cyb... by odshoifsdhfs on Sunday October 09, 2022 @07:03AM (#33139896)
It isn't just the economist that does that. My small European country loved to rail on Trump, so usually bad news were 'Trump's government did X' and good ones were 'America government did Y'. I then checked and BBC, CNN and others had the exact same bias when reporting.

(not following now as covid lockdown ended and I stopped reading/listening to the news so much, so not sure if it still applied with Biden)

Re:The gangs that kidnap Asians and force them to commit cyb... by factcheckdec on Sunday October 09, 2022 @07:36AM (#33140083)
Would be nice to open a HN thread and not see an Indian nationalist spout xenophobia about the British. Even if just for one day.
Re:The gangs that kidnap Asians and force them to commit cyb... by SanjayMehta on Sunday October 09, 2022 @09:36PM (#33146959)
Missing your colonial days?
Re:The gangs that kidnap Asians and force them to commit cyb... by sofixa on Sunday October 09, 2022 @03:54AM (#33138976)
They have an obvious pro-business, neoliberal (economic) bias, and they've never hidden it. Calling it propaganda and implying it's some nefarious tricking is too much. It's in their freaking name what they are!
Re:The gangs that kidnap Asians and force them to commit cyb... by hulitu on Sunday October 09, 2022 @05:33AM (#33139392)
>Calling it propaganda and implying it's some nefarious tricking is too much.

But it is still propaganda.

Re:The gangs that kidnap Asians and force them to commit cyb... by ALittleLight on Sunday October 09, 2022 @01:13AM (#33138439)
"Chinese gang kidnapped people, forced them to commit cyberfraud" seems like a pretty obvious rephrase.