Crimean bridge: Explosion is 'the beginning', says Zelensky adviser

Re:Crimean bridge: Explosion is 'the beginning', says Zelens... by libertine on Saturday October 08, 2022 @08:25AM (#33131715)

I admit that this is a red flag for me, because from my latest experience it degenerates into "whataboutism", which is part of the russian rhetoric.

"What about Iraq war? What about NATO expansions?..." as a means to justify the invasion.

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Re:Crimean bridge: Explosion is 'the beginning', says Zelens... by theironhammer on Saturday October 08, 2022 @12:54PM (#33133897)

What about the civil war in Ukraine since 2014?

What about the Minsk accords that Zelenksy was elected to implement but didn't? That was the wish of the Ukrainian people.

There are factions in Ukraine who wanted war with Russia.

It's not about justifying the Russian invasion or defending it. Its about if you provoke a war you'll get a war.

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Re:Crimean bridge: Explosion is 'the beginning', says Zelens... by libertine on Sunday October 09, 2022 @10:58AM (#33141797)

What about all of that? Those are internal affairs of Ukraine, which they were addressing internally through democracy.

If there were factions in Ukraine who wanted war with Russia... where were they? When did they invade russia? Also... why the hell does a "faction" want go war against Russia?

Makes no sense.

There were no provocations. The only provocation was the will of the Ukrainian people.

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