Gmail 2FA causes the homeless to permanently lose access 3 times a year

Re:Gmail 2FA causes the homeless to permanently lose access ... by LightHugger on Friday October 07, 2022 @01:32PM (#33124453)

2fa is a good option, but there are many situations where a plain password is just superior. if you ignore this reality, that passwords are legitimately more secure and better for a lot of people, then you're undermining an existing working security system and will just cause chaos and loss for people.

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Re:Gmail 2FA causes the homeless to permanently lose access ... by ethbr0 on Friday October 07, 2022 @02:32PM (#33125192)

And to generalize, I'd say that...

"There is an imperfect existing solution, with a problem, therefore we will ban the existing solution and move to a new, better one"

... should require extraordinary certainty in completeness of ones new solution before banning the previous.

There are very few times when the legacy method should be deprecated, and Google is the poster child of someone who shouldn't be trusted to recognize them.

(Looks pointedly at Chrome mv2/3 hubris and implementation clusterfuck)

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Re:Gmail 2FA causes the homeless to permanently lose access ... by AdamJacobMuller on Friday October 07, 2022 @05:23PM (#33127024)

> Chrome mv2/3 hubris and implementation clusterfuck

I'm not sure why you think MV3 is a clusterfuck, it seems like it's doing exactly what Google wants. If you're confused by that, remember, you're the product, not the customer.

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Re:Gmail 2FA causes the homeless to permanently lose access ... by ethbr0 on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:36PM (#33127701)

Assume I'm talking about something deeper than generic HN cliches. ;)

Pushing an implementation cutover by +6 months, and changing it from a hard to a soft date, because it has so many unresolved issues, incomplete APIs, and angry developers seems a fair definition of "clusterfuck."

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Re:Gmail 2FA causes the homeless to permanently lose access ... by xg15 on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:24PM (#33128192)

At this point I'm not sure if this is cynicism or a legitimate opinion.

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