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Re:U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009) by giantg2 on Friday October 07, 2022 @09:34AM (#33121045)
"and their law so restrictive in some cases"

Note that there was no law against this.

"This coming from the country where morons want to own a gun to protect their property and all other bs excuses, it's rather comedic."

This is highly inflammatory and disrespectful language and some might see it as trolling to get us off topic.

"And she received two anonymous notes from neighbors saying they did not want to see her underwear flapping about."

This is what she says happened. There content of the note is not provided, they didn't reach out to the officials, they didn't interview neighbors.

Hanging laundry is normal in some areas of the US too. Although it might not be normal to hang it along the road in your front yard (most have it in the back yard). I'm guessing there are some legal things in Portugal that annoy you, no? That's all that's objectively and factually happened here.

Although I do disagree with the use of anonymous notes and getting the government involved in petty stuff. But for every story of bad neighbors doing this, there are orders of magnitude more unreported stories of neighbors helping each other.

Re:U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009) by iudqnolq on Friday October 07, 2022 @11:14PM (#33129491)
> This is what she says happened. There content of the note is not provided, they didn't reach out to the officials, they didn't interview neighbors.

Yes, and? I find it plausible something like that happened based on my own experiences here. I see minimal incentive for her to lie. This isn't a court: that's enough for me to assume it true for the purpose of idle commentary.

> But for every story of bad neighbors doing this, there are orders of magnitude more unreported stories of neighbors helping each other.

That's consistent with there being a serious problem. You can't compare "raw number of bad things" to "raw number of good things" like that. Trivial example: if 4% of a neighborhood is shot at that's a neighborhood with a big shooting problem.

Re:U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009) by giantg2 on Sunday October 09, 2022 @10:43AM (#33141642)
Plausible is a very low bar. We have to weigh what is more likely. She may not be outright lying, but it seems significantly more likely this isn't the full story and may include exaggerations.

"that's enough for me to assume it true for the purpose of idle commentary."

Why don't you assume what I'm saying is the truth? This is a story with terrible journalism. There's really no reason to assume this is the whole story, or even an accurate one.

"That's consistent with there being a serious problem. You can't compare "raw number of bad things" to "raw number of good things" like that. Trivial example: if 4% of a neighborhood is shot at that's a neighborhood with a big shooting problem."

Please read the context. We aren't talking about shootings. The prior comment implies bad neighbors being common in the US. I'm saying thats not the case. Clearly assessing what is common would be useful to compare raw numbers.

Re:U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009) by brnt on Saturday October 08, 2022 @03:28AM (#33130507)
> This is highly inflammatory and disrespectful language and some might see it as trolling to get us off topic.

Only in the US it is. The rest of us agree.

I know it's a big place in its own right and opinions differ inside the US too; I'm sure I'm not the first who, when adding all these peculiarities up, come to the conclusion that many or most Americans just don't like/trust their fellow Americans. So much seems to be about keeping others away, down, invisible, out or even dead.

Re:U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009) by giantg2 on Sunday October 09, 2022 @10:44AM (#33141654)
Again, this seems like a stereotype that you have with no actual experience.

I would bet there people in your own country who do not agree. Sounds like you're marginalizing them, which is not nice.

Re:U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009) by brnt on Sunday October 09, 2022 @12:00PM (#33142447)
There really aren't.
Re:U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009) by giantg2 on Sunday October 09, 2022 @12:42PM (#33142826)
What country then?
Re:U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009) by giantg2 on Monday October 10, 2022 @06:49AM (#33149860)
I'm waiting...