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Re:Mastodon.technology Shutdown by Taek on Friday October 07, 2022 @09:16AM (#33120831)
In some sense of the word they are already shut down. Moderation is very heavy on both and certain topics just can't become widely shared. For example, a recent thread by a sex worker had something like 8/30 tweets censored off the platform (despite none of the content being graphic, offensive, or illegal).

So sure, Twitter will run for a long time. But it doesn't have very strong guarantees to its users about how it will treat them or what content will be allowed.

Re:Mastodon.technology Shutdown by EarlKing on Friday October 07, 2022 @09:23AM (#33120908)
Neither does any point on the Fediverse. As long as operators think they can run their site any way they want instead of obeying a common protocol then they're federated in name only. To put it another way: If I can never trust that my email will make it to someone on gmail due to the opaqueness of their spam filters, with no way to be whitelisted by a recipient, then email has been thoroughly decommoditized and centralized... and so too a 'federated' system where operators set arbitrary rules that result in whatever server they don't like being unreachable.
Re:Mastodon.technology Shutdown by wizzwizz4 on Friday October 07, 2022 @10:36AM (#33121961)
Unlike email, the Fediverse hasn't been captured by a few large organisations. So long as we take measures to ensure that this doesn't happen, "go somewhere else" will always be a viable solution to complaints about an instance's moderation.

I disagree with moderation decisions made by many instances, but if they made no moderation decisions, I would not be able to use the Fediverse. So I'm glad of it, even if it's a pain sometimes.

Re:Mastodon.technology Shutdown by EarlKing on Friday October 07, 2022 @11:55AM (#33123034)
"Go somewhere else" isn't a solution when a plurality of servers agree to tolerate racist, sexist, or just plain obscene conduct.

I'm also amazed that giving users control over what they see isn't an option. That solves the problem completely by making it the user's problem. That, however, somehow never seems to be an option.

Re:Mastodon.technology Shutdown by pessimizer on Friday October 07, 2022 @12:48PM (#33123806)
> "Go somewhere else" isn't a solution when a plurality of servers agree to tolerate racist, sexist, or just plain obscene conduct.

You've said this, but didn't bother to give a reason. Can't you go to church even when the plurality of people tolerate porn?

Re:Mastodon.technology Shutdown by Jon_Lowtek on Friday October 07, 2022 @01:12PM (#33124176)
> I'm also amazed that giving users control over what they see isn't an option.

so... you never actually used Mastodon? Its users do have the ability to filter content based on keywords, accounts or domains.

Re:Mastodon.technology Shutdown by tekknik on Sunday October 09, 2022 @02:16AM (#33138665)
> Unlike email, the Fediverse hasn't been captured by a few large organisations. So long as we take measures to ensure that this doesn't happen, "go somewhere else" will always be a viable solution to complaints about an instance's moderation.

Wait, where have we heard this before? Oh right, Bitcoin and mining. It won’t be run by small time users if it catches traction. Not techies goofing around on the weekend, but when your Grandma creates an account because her friend is on there.

Re:Mastodon.technology Shutdown by pessimizer on Friday October 07, 2022 @11:14AM (#33122471)
> so too a 'federated' system where operators set arbitrary rules that result in whatever server they don't like being unreachable.

Nah. If you can pick your king, he's not really a king. The intended recipient of your communication decided to join a server that censors your type of message.

The problem is when the federation becomes a trust, and members collude. Like Facebook, Twitter, and Youtube, for example. The more division, the more federation, the harder it is to collude.

Re:Mastodon.technology Shutdown by afavour on Friday October 07, 2022 @09:45AM (#33121203)
> In some sense of the word they are already shut down.

C'mon. Let's call a spade as spade: you wanted to complain about moderation and you shoehorned it into conversation. In no way does it make Twitter "shut down".