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Re:Amazon autocomplete recommends suicide kits to teens by LatteLazy on Friday October 07, 2022 @04:14AM (#33118623)
Sodium nitrite is used to cure and preserve meat. That's why Amazon sell it. It is not a "suicide kit" any more than any other chemical.
Re:Amazon autocomplete recommends suicide kits to teens by oulipo on Friday October 07, 2022 @04:40AM (#33118785)
This was actually addressed in the article: the product used to cure meat is only 6% pure sodium nitrite. In this case, Amazon was selling a 98% pure sodium nitrite, which has no known household use
Re:Amazon autocomplete recommends suicide kits to teens by LatteLazy on Friday October 07, 2022 @05:36AM (#33119174)
6% SN also has no household use. The thread is wrong to imply it does. Curing salt is <1% SN, so either way you need to dilute it.
Re:Amazon autocomplete recommends suicide kits to teens by 988747 on Friday October 07, 2022 @08:34AM (#33120347)
So now you get the reason why a person might want to buy 98% pure SN: to have a stockpile that lasts long, just take a bit of SN and dilute it to the required concentration.
Re:Amazon autocomplete recommends suicide kits to teens by LatteLazy on Friday October 07, 2022 @09:27AM (#33120967)
Exactly.

People (I've done it once or twice but I am not super into it) who cure their own meat get quite obsessive about their "recipes" 0.5% or 0.4% or 0.6% SN? Cloves or Nutmeg? etc.

Re:Amazon autocomplete recommends suicide kits to teens by asib on Friday October 07, 2022 @04:27AM (#33118688)
Amazon is recommending 98% pure SN, which the thread says has no use outside a lab.

From thread:

NOTE: the product we’re suing about should not be mistaken for curing salt which is only 6% pure SN and used to cure meats.

Re:Amazon autocomplete recommends suicide kits to teens by 10x_contrarian on Friday October 07, 2022 @04:56AM (#33118897)
The lawyer's thread is wrong. Sodium nitrate is used in aquariums. I've purchased similar lab-grade chemicals for use in mine.
Re:Amazon autocomplete recommends suicide kits to teens by CommitSyn on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:34AM (#33119889)
nitrIte, not nitrAte.
Re:Amazon autocomplete recommends suicide kits to teens by SuchAnonMuchWow on Friday October 07, 2022 @04:18AM (#33118637)
From the thread:

> Amazon recommends that purchasers also buy Tagamet to avoid vomiting up the poison, a personal use scale to measure the proper quantity, and the Amazon Edition of the Peaceful Pill Handbook, a suicide manual with an entire chapter on how to die by SN.

That's definitely a suicide kit.

Re:Amazon autocomplete recommends suicide kits to teens by LatteLazy on Friday October 07, 2022 @05:23AM (#33119094)
I think we need to be clear about our definitions and our expectations here.

To me, a suicide kit is something you find by looking for "suicide kit" AND it is a single item sold for a single purpose.

This is important because if we're not strict about that, then there are likely billions of "suicide kits" sold daily on and offline. A knife + any other item is a suicide kit by that definition. So are Caffeine pills or normal salt or wiper fluid or a wood chipper.

And that's the problem here: these are random items someone who already wanted to commit suicide might want, but might equality be sought by any reasonable sane person for safe use.

Re:Amazon autocomplete recommends suicide kits to teens by docdeek on Friday October 07, 2022 @04:25AM (#33118669)
The thread addresses this: "(NOTE: the product we’re suing about should not be mistaken for curing salt which is only 6% pure SN and used to cure meats.).
Re:Amazon autocomplete recommends suicide kits to teens by LatteLazy on Friday October 07, 2022 @05:28AM (#33119119)
The thread seems not to know you can (and people often do) home dilute their chemicals. In fact 6% pure salt is actually very high for home curing and will also need to be diluted down to <1% to be used. 6% salt would be toxic if ingested in any real quantity too...

The whole thing seems like a lawyer trying to turn a nothing case into something and either being ignorant of the facts or hoping others are...

Re:Amazon autocomplete recommends suicide kits to teens by andrewflnr on Friday October 07, 2022 @04:48AM (#33118837)
I'm sympathetic to the needs of home chemists, niche as they are, but it's the co-recommendations that really send it over the edge.