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Re:TikTok Parent ByteDance Sees Losses Swell in Push for Growth by parker_mountain on Thursday October 06, 2022 @01:29PM (#33111246)
Well, I don't agree with OP, but the Chinese government is way more involved with its companies than the US is. Here, ostensibly, there's a court and legal process - versus China, where the government has all data by default.

So, any Chinese tech company is de facto going to have all of its data accessible by the Chinese government, by default.

Re:TikTok Parent ByteDance Sees Losses Swell in Push for Growth by user_named on Thursday October 06, 2022 @01:31PM (#33111263)
It's interesting to see you make these claims when you know nothing about the workings of the legal system in China.
Re:TikTok Parent ByteDance Sees Losses Swell in Push for Growth by kryptiskt on Thursday October 06, 2022 @01:33PM (#33111291)
By Chinese law all data must be made accessible to the government. Of course, it's also an authoritarian state where the government isn't hamstrung by the legal system in any way.
Re:TikTok Parent ByteDance Sees Losses Swell in Push for Growth by indemnity on Thursday October 06, 2022 @01:35PM (#33111332)
What legal system?

The legal system in China is whatever the party wants it to be.

Re:TikTok Parent ByteDance Sees Losses Swell in Push for Growth by tehjoker on Thursday October 06, 2022 @01:47PM (#33111491)
it's funny you raise that point right after the abortion decision here
Re:TikTok Parent ByteDance Sees Losses Swell in Push for Growth by parker_mountain on Thursday October 06, 2022 @06:37PM (#33115025)
> know nothing about the workings of the legal system in China

Hello, I'm an appsec engineer working on product privacy for a large multinational company. I have a pretty accurate, battle tested, mental model about data privacy w/r/t international verticals. I have worked with our China vertical and also worked on key escrow separation models. You might even be able to figure out which company, based on the above.

It's interesting to see you make these claims about me when you know nothing about me.

Re:TikTok Parent ByteDance Sees Losses Swell in Push for Growth by sumedh on Friday October 07, 2022 @08:16AM (#33120198)
> Here, ostensibly, there's a court and legal process

On December 16, 2005, The New York Times reported that the Bush administration had been conducting surveillance against U.S. citizens without specific approval from the FISA court for each case since 2002.

In 2011, the Obama administration secretly won permission from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to reverse restrictions on the National Security Agency's use of intercepted phone calls and e-mails, permitting the agency to search deliberately for Americans' communications in its massive databases.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Foreign_Intellig...