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Re:Cloud desktops aren't as good as you'd think by vlan0 on Thursday October 06, 2022 @01:24PM (#33111169)
>Who learns how to build new environments?

Feels like this is happening already. There is no incentive to learn the fundamental concepts. We need more people interested in the why, and not just a quick buck. Folks interested in the why is the only reason we are here to begin with!

On the other hand....it's great job security! Less and less people understand networking everyday it seems!

Re:Cloud desktops aren't as good as you'd think by bckr on Thursday October 06, 2022 @01:48PM (#33111498)
In my experience, "tinkering" with an environment before getting any code working was a recipe for believing "this is too hard, maybe I'm not smart enough to do this".

Getting a feedback loop early on is so important. Once you're convinced that you can write software, setting up an environment starts to look like a tractable problem.

Re:Cloud desktops aren't as good as you'd think by mikebenfield on Thursday October 06, 2022 @01:59PM (#33111653)
The kinds of things people are talking about - fiddling with autotools or PYTHONPATH - are not “fundamental concepts” or “the why” behind anything. It’s just tedious, boring nonsense. There are plenty of intellectually curious people who would be turned off by this stuff.
Re:Cloud desktops aren't as good as you'd think by vlan0 on Thursday October 06, 2022 @02:05PM (#33111725)
I agree.