Re:AI’s Grandmaster Status Overshadows Chess Scandal
by kokonoko on Thursday October 06, 2022 @12:48PM
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If this article has a point, it fails to deliver it.
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Re:AI’s Grandmaster Status Overshadows Chess Scandal
by stavros on Thursday October 06, 2022 @01:15PM
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"Computers are better than humans now. They weren't before.
More articles for you: Water turns out to be wet."
Re:AI’s Grandmaster Status Overshadows Chess Scandal
by throwaway7055 on Thursday October 06, 2022 @02:38PM
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Apparently water isnt wet. It took me awhile to get over the wtf reaction. Basically because wetness is the ability of a liquid to coat, or soak into, a solid. and being wet is the state of being covered in a liquid. We're left with the surprising conclusion that unless we think of water as being water coated, or soaked in, more water its not wet.
I'm open to having my mind changed on this as I find it a bit ridiculous and will continue to think of liquids as being wet
Re:AI’s Grandmaster Status Overshadows Chess Scandal
by stavros on Thursday October 06, 2022 @02:43PM
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Wetness is a property of the liquid, not of the solid. So, a surface is wet because it has a liquid on it, but the liquid is always wet.
It's like saying "blue things are things that are painted blue, but blue paint isn't painted blue, so it's not blue." Paint is the thing that makes the things blue, and is blue itself.
Re:AI’s Grandmaster Status Overshadows Chess Scandal
by Maursault on Thursday October 06, 2022 @03:01PM
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But, in fact, blue paint is every other color but blue, which it reflects.
Re:AI’s Grandmaster Status Overshadows Chess Scandal
by stavros on Thursday October 06, 2022 @03:27PM
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Yes, it's blue because it reflects blue.
Re:AI’s Grandmaster Status Overshadows Chess Scandal
by Maursault on Thursday October 06, 2022 @04:03PM
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Twisting of words there. Because it appears blue, conventionally we call it blue, even though the thing itself is anything but blue. That it appears blue ironically means it is not blue.
Re:AI’s Grandmaster Status Overshadows Chess Scandal
by stavros on Thursday October 06, 2022 @04:06PM
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On the contrary, you're the one who's defining something being blue as the opposite of what it is. Things are the color they reflect, not the color they absorb. A thing that reflects blue is blue, how could it be otherwise?
Re:AI’s Grandmaster Status Overshadows Chess Scandal
by Maursault on Thursday October 06, 2022 @04:10PM
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The things are not the color they reflect, in the same way your position does not include the ideas that you reject, and the rubber ball that reflects off a wall is not that wall itself. Things are the color that they are, whether perceptible or not, but the color that is reflected eliminates that possibility for the thing's actual color.
Re:AI’s Grandmaster Status Overshadows Chess Scandal
by stavros on Thursday October 06, 2022 @04:12PM
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Why are things the color they absorb?
Re:AI’s Grandmaster Status Overshadows Chess Scandal
by Maursault on Thursday October 06, 2022 @04:17PM
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You are what you eat.
Re:AI’s Grandmaster Status Overshadows Chess Scandal
by antisthenes on Thursday October 06, 2022 @01:18PM
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If that's the only point the article was trying to make, then it's about 15 years late.
Computers have been at 3000+ ELO on consumer hardware for a decade.