So you're using a weird language

Re:So you're using a weird language by rowanG077 on Thursday October 06, 2022 @01:59AM (#33104883)

I feel this is true. If a person has a few esoteric languages under their belt it says a lot about their drive and passion. If anything if I wanted to find talented devs I would put some more esoteric languages on the requirements lists even if we wouldn't use those languages internally. It's a pretty effective filter.

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Re:So you're using a weird language by scarface74 on Thursday October 06, 2022 @10:05AM (#33108304)

Why do I feel like when you want developers with “passion” you wouldn’t be satisfied with developers who want to put 40 hours a week in and go home?

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Re:So you're using a weird language by rowanG077 on Thursday October 06, 2022 @03:09PM (#33112619)

No, it's not about the hours. A developer with passion is more likely to be highly skilled.

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Re:So you're using a weird language by scarface74 on Thursday October 06, 2022 @04:39PM (#33113787)

So where do they gain that passion if not from developing off hours?

If you look at the leveling or hiring guidelines for any major tech company, what separates “senior developers” and up from mid level developers are system design, “handling ambiguity”, leadership, “scope”, “impact” and in the case of Google did you write a messaging app.

Even the largest tech companies realize “coding ability” only gets you so far and most developers who want to get ahead would be far better off focusing on the other aspects of software engineering.

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Re:So you're using a weird language by rowanG077 on Thursday October 06, 2022 @05:48PM (#33114528)

System design, handling ambiguity, scope and impact are all things that are taught extremely well by just coding a lot. I'm not even sure why you are arguing. Someone who does something more and likes doing it in general will be better at it then someone who spends less time on it and doesn't like it.

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Re:So you're using a weird language by scarface74 on Thursday October 06, 2022 @06:05PM (#33114702)

So how do you learn “system design” - infrastructure, proper data storage for the problem domain, balancing the trade offs between costs, RPO and RTO, security, caching, sharding to handle scale, scaling, disaster recovery or the stereotypical “how would you design Twitter” System Design tech interview.

Coding has little to do with handling ambiguity.

While I have never been through a BigTech coding interview, I have been through (and passed) a BigTech system design interview, it has little to do with coding.

Designing (and redesigning) systems for large organizations is my $DayJob where I have to be able to explain those concepts.

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