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Re:macOS is background scanning and following downloaded QR ... by yellowapple on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @11:43AM (#33097023)
Yet another reason to take Apple's privacy claims with a hydrostatically-equilibrious and neighborhood-clearing grain of salt.
Re:macOS is background scanning and following downloaded QR ... by pornel on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @12:11PM (#33097382)
This doesn't have to anything nefarious. It could be an unfortunate combination of code reuse and feature creep.

Probably the QR scanner written for the iOS camera has an option to present URLs nicely (by fetching them), and some other OS component for image indexing reused the QR scanner without realizing it comes with side effects.

Re:macOS is background scanning and following downloaded QR ... by yellowapple on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @12:24PM (#33097539)
> This doesn't have to anything nefarious

It doesn't have to be explicitly nefarious to be a privacy issue. I'm sure there's some perfectly innocuous reason Apple could come up with for doing this, but unless and until Apple is forthcoming with those reasons and is transparent in how this is implemented (i.e. by providing source code) I have zero reason to take any such reason at face value.

Transparency is a dependency of trust. Apple is not transparent, and therefore is not trustworthy - especially when it's running a full-blown crawler on ostensibly-private messages.

Re:macOS is background scanning and following downloaded QR ... by 93po on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @04:01PM (#33100581)
The author removed their tweet and retracted their claim. Yet another reason to not believe everything we see posted online.
Re:macOS is background scanning and following downloaded QR ... by yellowapple on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @08:12PM (#33102826)
My comment stands if you s/Apple/Mozilla/.
Re:macOS is background scanning and following downloaded QR ... by chrisseaton on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @05:10PM (#33101279)
Do you know the Tweet was false?
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Re:macOS is background scanning and following downloaded QR ... by yellowapple on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @12:17PM (#33097453)
I am, and so is the author of those tweets.
Re:macOS is background scanning and following downloaded QR ... by grooot on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @12:19PM (#33097472)
Is your claim that data is being exfiltrated to Apple?
Re:macOS is background scanning and following downloaded QR ... by yellowapple on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @12:26PM (#33097564)
Data exfiltration is not necessary for this to be a privacy concern; data becomes a liability as soon as it's collected even locally.

EDIT: in this case, however, data exfiltration is happening, by means of Apple's closed-source software blindly sending HTTP requests to unknown servers. Apple might not be the recipient of the exfiltrated data, but the exfiltration is happening nonetheless.

Re:macOS is background scanning and following downloaded QR ... by grooot on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @12:28PM (#33097578)
Frankly this is absurd.

Did you know that the file system of your computer contains your personal data, including files you save?

EDIT: No, that’s not what exfiltration means. You are simply misusing the word.

Re:macOS is background scanning and following downloaded QR ... by yellowapple on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @03:25PM (#33100167)
> Frankly this is absurd.

What's absurd is Apple's software sending requests to random and entirely-unvetted servers without even so much as notifying the user, let alone obtaining consent.

> Did you know that the file system of your computer contains your personal data, including files you save?

Why yes, and that would just so happen to be the reason why I ain't exactly comfortable with closed-source software silently sifting through it and blindly following anything and everything vaguely resembling a URL or encoding thereof.

> EDIT: No, that’s not what exfiltration means. You are simply misusing the word.

https://www.fortinet.com/resources/cyberglossary/data-exfilt...:

"A common data exfiltration definition is the theft or unauthorized removal or movement of any data from a device. Data exfiltration typically involves a cyber criminal stealing data from personal or corporate devices, such as computers and mobile phones, through various cyberattack methods.

"Another data exfiltration meaning is data exportation and extrusion, data leakage, or data theft, which can pose serious problems for organizations. Failing to control information security can lead to data loss that could cause reputational and financial damage to an organization."

Thanks to this crawler, anyone who sends you even so much as a QR-encoded image of a link will know that it was successfully received, that it was a macOS machine that received it, and quite possibly the public IP address of the machine that received it. That's data that's worth preventing disclosure, for the same reasons email clients often don't load images in emails by default.