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Re:Zero-Emission Vehicles Progress Dashboard [pdf] by codeulike on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @07:31AM (#33094010)
A zero-emission vehicle, or ZEV, is a vehicle that does not emit exhaust gas or other pollutants from the onboard source of power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-emissions_vehicle

Re:Zero-Emission Vehicles Progress Dashboard [pdf] by Gordonjcp on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @09:32AM (#33095350)
So a very long way from "zero emission" then, depending on where its power comes from.

I guess if you stretch the definition rules sufficiently my 25-year-old 4.6 litre V8 4x4 is a "Negative-Emission Vehicle" because it actively reduces the amount of toxic pollution in the air, when you take it down some of the more polluted roads. Drive it in a bus lane and the exhaust gases are cleaner than the air it's sucking in - it's warm carbon dioxide and water vapour, with all the HC, CO and particulates stripped out.

Re:Zero-Emission Vehicles Progress Dashboard [pdf] by pwinnski on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @09:49AM (#33095561)
You can imagine a worst-case scenario for the electricity used to charge the cars, or you can imagine a best-case scenario.

The car itself is zero-emission by the definition posted. You are hypothesizing that the electricity used to charge the car comes from a dirty source, but that has nothing to do with the car itself, and in Texas for example, it's easily to choose a "100% renewable" energy provider. I just checked PowerToChoose[0] and found 26 "100% Renewable" plans available from companies like CleanSky[1].

0. https://powertochoose.org/en-us

1. https://cleanskyenergy.com

Re:Zero-Emission Vehicles Progress Dashboard [pdf] by Gordonjcp on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @10:22AM (#33095936)
It's the same in Scotland. Right now the whole country is powered by 100% renewable energy but everything is priced based on all power being generated in and for London from natural gas, because we have to prop up England's failed capitalist experiment.
Re:Zero-Emission Vehicles Progress Dashboard [pdf] by megaman821 on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @10:54AM (#33096338)
...as opposed to the communists that delivered you wind energy?