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Re:Elon Musk moves ahead with Twitter deal in 13D filing by wincy on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @06:07PM (#33087738)
Maybe. I think it’s quite possible Elon will just hand the CEO position back over to Jack and let him create the social media network he meant to create in the first place before he lost control.
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Re:Elon Musk moves ahead with Twitter deal in 13D filing by systemvoltage on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @05:02PM (#33086834)
You guys remember when liberals/progressives used to stand up for free speech and flipping a middle finger to 3 letter agencies? It was beautiful.

The current liberatarian = cultural-left ~10 years ago.

Re:Elon Musk moves ahead with Twitter deal in 13D filing by wincy on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @06:26PM (#33087951)
I really miss that internet. I thought everyone else did too. I feel like I’ve stood in the same place as people have started to just decide they don’t believe in free speech when it’s not convenient?
Re:Elon Musk moves ahead with Twitter deal in 13D filing by CamperBob2 on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @08:31PM (#33089312)
Not defending any form of censorship, but I will say that before 2016, many of us didn't understand just how programmable people were.

Or we suspected it, but just didn't want to admit it to ourselves.

Re:Elon Musk moves ahead with Twitter deal in 13D filing by systemvoltage on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @12:25AM (#33091225)
This is the problem. Blaming it on people being programmable instead of looking at real issues of rust belt dwindling into starvation, shipping manufacturing overseas and letting our cities crumble into infrastructure rot.

But, yeah, still blame it on the programmability of the people. I guess, this is the testament to programmability of people to not look at real politik and sweep things under the rug.

We went from individual rights to mushy paper straws in less than 10 years. That's how far we've stooped.

Re:Elon Musk moves ahead with Twitter deal in 13D filing by Cederfjard on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @02:19AM (#33091937)
> This is the problem. Blaming it on people being programmable instead of looking at real issues of rust belt dwindling into starvation, shipping manufacturing overseas and letting our cities crumble into infrastructure rot.

> But, yeah, still blame it on the programmability of the people.

Yes indeed, because the people affected by those problems tend to vote for the side that, to a much more severe degree than its counterpart, doesn’t have any real vision for solving them, but instead makes its base feel good with populistic propaganda.

You’re basically just saying there are real issues that people care about. Yeah, absolutely. That doesn’t mean that we aren’t also being manipulated and that it’s not something worth trying to solve.

Re:Elon Musk moves ahead with Twitter deal in 13D filing by CamperBob2 on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @03:18PM (#33100072)
We went from individual rights to mushy paper straws in less than 10 years. That's how far we've stooped.

No, the Republicans went from a party that believed in free trade, free minds, freedom of conscience, and individual rights to a captive personality cult beholden to a New York real estate hustler who failed at selling steaks, booze, and gambling to Americans but who was strangely successful at selling real estate to Russians, and who promised to stack the courts with unqualified theocrats.

That's how far you've stooped.

Re:Elon Musk moves ahead with Twitter deal in 13D filing by systemvoltage on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @03:23PM (#33100149)
This has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats.
Re:Elon Musk moves ahead with Twitter deal in 13D filing by CamperBob2 on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @03:25PM (#33100168)
Well, it's not as if there are any libertarians left.
Re:Elon Musk moves ahead with Twitter deal in 13D filing by systemvoltage on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @05:42PM (#33101568)
Damn, you’re right. Just shows how bad things have gotten. SV used to be quite libertarian. John Carmack and John Romero wouldn’t fit in today’s SV culture. Surprising because I assume intellectuals wouldn’t fall for woke culture and they’d reject it out right. Instead, SV intellectuals have embraced it hard and fast; and chief proponents of it.
Re:Elon Musk moves ahead with Twitter deal in 13D filing by systemvoltage on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @06:36PM (#33088067)
Silicon Valley used to have such a great sense of optimism and principled approach towards individualism. Highly inspiring and optimistic. Today, I can’t even say I like Steve Jobs without getting labeled something.
Re:Elon Musk moves ahead with Twitter deal in 13D filing by wincy on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @06:05PM (#33087718)
Being principled for free speech sounds just awful. I don’t know how we’ll survive all these crazy libertarians not moderating discussion to support a very narrow San Francisco-centric worldview.