Mandated diversity statement drives Jonathan Haidt to quit academic society

Re:Mandated diversity statement drives Jonathan Haidt to qui... by mint2 on Monday October 03, 2022 @01:03AM (#33063641)

The only thing surer than debates on the internet eventually leading to nazi comparisons is that some commenter will then cite godwins law.

It’s actually godwins second law of nature. how pertinent nazis are to the topic is not relevant, Godwin’s law will be brought up and very often inappropriately as even Godwin himself has noted.

“Godwin's law itself can be applied mistakenly or abused as a distraction, diversion or even as censorship, when fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole when the comparison made by the argument is appropriate.[12]”

“Godwin himself has also criticized the overapplication of the law, claiming that it does not articulate a fallacy, but rather is intended to reduce the frequency of inappropriate and hyperbolic comparisons“

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Re:Mandated diversity statement drives Jonathan Haidt to qui... by andrew_ on Monday October 03, 2022 @08:21AM (#33066471)

And yet it doesn't make it any less true. The correlation exists, just as tides to moon phase, and doesn't negate the existence of either. HN has turned into that one site where any remotely ideological topic, any minutely political (cue the "everything is political crowd") will invariably bring out the "BUT NAZIS" replies. It's insufferable.

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Re:Mandated diversity statement drives Jonathan Haidt to qui... by mint2 on Monday October 03, 2022 @11:18AM (#33068724)

A. I wasn’t the one who broached the topic of nazis

B. This is a comment page about censorship and this thread in particular is about one party trying to end open society

So nazis are a natural comparison, and the valid comparison was attempted to be censored and avoided by bringing up an internet meme in exactly the way the originator has criticized. But hey knowing the meme is a get out of jail free card, no civil discourse needed!

Just admit that the comment would have been a valid defense of the nazi party in its ramp up. No meme-ing out of that and there’s been no attempt to deny it, just distract from it.

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Re:Mandated diversity statement drives Jonathan Haidt to qui... by hackerlight on Monday October 03, 2022 @11:31AM (#33068922)

Bringing up Godwin's law as meta commentary is a thought terminating rhetorical tactic. It isn't an argument and it conveys no information.

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