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Re:Toyota CEO talks about why he isn’t all-in on EVs by PaulDavisThe1st on Sunday October 02, 2022 @07:10PM (#33061336)
I think that calling this "an easy problem to solve" is really understating the issue. It may not require any new inventions or new technology, but it requires a monumental infrastructure effort, on the same scale as the original electrification processes that happened to industrialized societies 100 years ago.
Re:Toyota CEO talks about why he isn’t all-in on EVs by dangrossman on Sunday October 02, 2022 @08:25PM (#33061924)
The effort is already underway.

California's building code requires all residential and commercial buildings have EV chargers starting on January 1, 2023.

The national electric vehicle infrastructure program (NEVI) has $7 billion in funding from the infrastructure bill passed last year and just approved the charging station construction plans for all 50 states. Within a few years we'll have "fast charge" stations for EVs every 50 miles along nearly every highway in the nation.

EVs already made up more than 10% of global new car sales this summer. Market demand will mean that apartment buildings and condos will start putting in outlets for EV charging on their own otherwise they'll not be able to attract tenants pretty soon.

Re:Toyota CEO talks about why he isn’t all-in on EVs by lambda_dn on Monday October 03, 2022 @05:06AM (#33065066)
Houses last for centuries, a few thousand new builds in Cali is not going to make the slightest difference. I think EV will remain a niche (<15%) until they can charge as quickly as filling a tank and until their (real) range is 700+ miles.

I'd say by 2030 buying an EV would be a viable option for most. The people buying them now are usually early adopting Tesla fan-bois who are happy to pay through the nose to be a crash test dummy for self driving.

Re:Toyota CEO talks about why he isn’t all-in on EVs by elihu on Monday October 03, 2022 @11:59AM (#33069328)
Nearly all houses these days have electrical outlets. A 110 volt 20 amp circuit isn't the most ideal way to charge an EV, but it can work. Most houses have 220 outlets, and adding one to the garage is no big deal. Few people will ever install a DC fast charger in their house, and that's fine because it's not needed.

~700 mile range and ~30C charging rates are ridiculous bars to meet. EVs with ~200 mile range and ~2C charging rates work just fine right now for a lot of people.

The main issue right now with EV adoption is just the cost of batteries, and lack of a convenient way for people in apartments to charge.

Re:Toyota CEO talks about why he isn’t all-in on EVs by ajford on Sunday October 02, 2022 @10:20PM (#33062791)
There's a decently high current power line available from street lights. Not sure if they're still putting them in with high current since so many are converting to LED, but sodium lights drew ~1kW iirc.

There's already been projects to put in chargers on street lights, like this one https://lalights.lacity.org/connected-infrastructure/ev_stat... and this one https://www.electronicspecifier.com/products/renewables/conv...

Re:Toyota CEO talks about why he isn’t all-in on EVs by paulryanrogers on Sunday October 02, 2022 @08:30PM (#33061956)
Shipping and processing oil isn't trivial either. At least with electric we aren't poisoning the nearby air.
Re:Toyota CEO talks about why he isn’t all-in on EVs by PaulDavisThe1st on Monday October 03, 2022 @10:40AM (#33068140)
It certainly isn't. But it's also already done. That doesn't make it better or worse, it just makes it a sort of benchmark for the infrastructure work required to replace that energy distribution system (based on liquid hydrocarbons) with something else.
Re:Toyota CEO talks about why he isn’t all-in on EVs by nonethewiser on Sunday October 02, 2022 @10:25PM (#33062815)
Well, not exactly. EV's still have emissions, they are just displaced. They happen at the power plant instead of the tailpipe. You would cause more pollution if the electricity was generated with coal instead of gasoline, for example.
Re:Toyota CEO talks about why he isn’t all-in on EVs by paulryanrogers on Sunday October 02, 2022 @10:41PM (#33062920)
Hence the word 'nearby'. And it's easier to replace fewer polluting sources via electricity.
Re:Toyota CEO talks about why he isn’t all-in on EVs by theshrike79 on Monday October 03, 2022 @03:50AM (#33064645)
Over 80% of apartment parking spots in Finland have had a power plug since the 80s. It's not that hard.

People just keep thinking that every car needs a 350kW fast charger on their parking spot, when a normal three phase plug would do just fine.

It's better for the battery to charge slowly anyway.

Re:Toyota CEO talks about why he isn’t all-in on EVs by assttoasstmgr on Sunday October 02, 2022 @07:51PM (#33061648)
EV enthusiasts' arrogance and cult-like devotion to dismissing the very real problems with EVs and lack of infrastructure will only hurt, not help their cause.
Re:Toyota CEO talks about why he isn’t all-in on EVs by paulryanrogers on Sunday October 02, 2022 @08:31PM (#33061965)
Never pricing in externalities of gas powered vehicles is only hurting their cause.