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Re:Stadia died because no one trusts Google by panick21_ on Sunday October 02, 2022 @04:27PM (#33059890)
Yeah that company had no other costumers that were considering 6000+ machines. Tesla put down the money and the internal engineering to prove out that using huge casting as a structural member for the car was viable and then worked with a supplier to design the exact machines they needed.

Machines that like still wouldn't exist today had Tesla not done the necessary investment.

There is the machine and then the application of the machine to an actual production process.

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Re:Stadia died because no one trusts Google by impossiblefork on Sunday October 02, 2022 @06:07PM (#33060803)
Tesla may also be unique in having a strong need for machines of this kind, which in a way, attempt to avoid assembling of complex metal parts. If the other manufacturers have that down, then their need for very large components of this kind is lower.

It's like Germany and its heavy presses, during WWII. Lack of manpower, or in this case, something else that is wrong, leads to an player going for the most complete realization of that is easier and has major advantages.

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Re:Stadia died because no one trusts Google by panick21_ on Monday October 03, 2022 @08:20AM (#33066453)
> Tesla may also be unique in having a strong need for machines of this kind

All other car companies?

> If the other manufacturers have that down, then their need for very large components of this kind is lower.

This is not how this works. Tesla also 'has it down' with the Model 3 manufacturing line.

Its still lower CAPX and lower OPEX to use gigapress.

This is a large part why even the former CEO of VW said they were behind in some ways.

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Re:Stadia died because no one trusts Google by impossiblefork on Monday October 03, 2022 @01:29PM (#33070788)
>This is not how this works. Tesla also 'has it down' with the Model 3 manufacturing line.

Yes, but at the time when they went after these presses as the thing for the future, they didn't quite have it down.

>Its still lower CAPX and lower OPEX to use gigapress.

Now, probably, yes.

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