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Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by kelnos on Sunday October 02, 2022 @01:59AM (#33053284)
Hell, most of the people I know who have PhDs are at least mildly embarrassed if you call them "doctor". Or at the very least they roll their eyes and think the title is silly. This is in the US; I don't know about how people feel in other countries.

Granted, these are mostly (or even all?) people who received their doctorates in the past 10 or 15 years, and as such are a good 30 years younger than Stallman, so perhaps there is a generational thing at play here too, where the respect/desirability of titles like that has been dropping over time.

Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by jltsiren on Sunday October 02, 2022 @05:29AM (#33054403)
Using "doctor" as a title or a form of address is common in the academia, including in the US. It's also very formal, especially in spoken language. Hearing it in situations where such formality is not expected can be awkward and embarrassing.
Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by jcelerier on Sunday October 02, 2022 @09:14AM (#33055627)
I only ever see it with people in the humanities. In science... weird - more than weird, in general seeing someone who uses the Dr. title is a good indication of "you're going to read the worst shit ever hidden under an insufferable amount of vague verbiage".

To give another data point: in France I remember the university having to ask the local profs. to put their titles (Dr, Prof, etc) in their mail signature as otherwise students thought that french teachers were much less competent than e.g. teachers from germany who would have three layers of Dr. Eng. prepended

Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by jltsiren on Sunday October 02, 2022 @03:48PM (#33059497)
Like I said, it's very formal.

One common situation is introducing an invited speaker at a conference. After the first mention, you refer to the speaker using a mix of pronouns and names. Full name or last name would sound weird. Using first name works if the speaker is your friend and many people in the audience also know them as a person. Otherwise "Dr. Lastname" is a reasonable choice.

Academic websites are full of short biographies of speakers, lecturers, PIs, and so on. They are often written in third person. Again, "Dr. Lastname" is often the form of reference that sounds least weird.

Academic spam is often addressed to "Dr. Lastname", especially if the sender is asking the recipient to do something. Using "doctor" as a title is a safe default choice. It sounds respectful, it's very likely to be correct, and it saves the sender from guessing the gender (and possibly marital status) of the recipient.

Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by worik on Sunday October 02, 2022 @02:36PM (#33058844)
What nonsense!

A PhD has earned their title "Dr".

Many people use it, and they should. They paid for it with their mental health.

I apply the title to everyone I know with a PhD.

Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by jcelerier on Sunday October 02, 2022 @06:59PM (#33061269)
I guess it's cultural. I and a fair amount of my friends with a PhD find it just super weird.
Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by genewitch on Sunday October 02, 2022 @03:08AM (#33053656)
If they paid the $100,000 why would they be embarassed? There's probably a psychological explanation for their reasoning. M.D. is a "doctor", but a person with their PhD is a "Doctor of ..." If anything, I'm more inclined to believe someone with a Doctorate in anything other than medicine.

Perhaps the PhD holders don't want to be associated with the hubris that most medical doctors exude. For reference, google "endometriosis suffer" or spend some time researching medical malpractice.

It also is possible that a lot of kids coming out of the 80s got a bum deal on their education - or at least feel they did. Like, "it was too easy to get this degree" - from the standpoint of applying themselves, not the overall workload of getting a PhD. Medical Doctors who are board certified, that did all their rotations, and whatever else required, there's only one other doctorate that requires more workload, and that's psychiatry.

What should maybe be questioned is why someone needs a doctorate for "the world to learn from them."