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Re:Stadia died because no one trusts Google by h0l0cube on Sunday October 02, 2022 @01:58AM (#33053274)
> Larry and Sergei

This may be part of the problem. Google was founded by algorithm nerds, and that's now part of the DNA of the company. Apple (Tesla/Starlink/etc) was founded upon vision - what could the future look like? How do I make that happen today? - and then, somehow, to pare that back to something that's economically viable in a reasonable time frame.

That said, taking existing problems and trying to better apply algorithms to make a better product is still a thing in AI space though - and even here plenty of start ups are taking the lead.

Re:Stadia died because no one trusts Google by vinay_ys on Sunday October 02, 2022 @03:42AM (#33053828)
Google tends to take on problems that have high technical complexity, potential wide user base and extremely low marginal cost per user and monetizable via ads. And they detest manual/field operational work and don't have the institutional muscle to do fast incremental iterative product development. These are good predictors of what product of theirs will succeed vs fail.

Within high technical complexity space, they differ in significant ways with Apple or Tesla – they don't have organizational mechanisms to do deep vertically integrated problem solutioning. Even when they have academically much superior AI tech, their ability to productize those capabilities is slow and less effective due to how cross-organization collaboration works.

On the business side, they don't have a business team really. There's no MBAs scheming new pricing or bundling models nor are there people wanting to chase/beat market competitors. So, whenever they do SKU based pricing or subscription based pricing, they tend to get it less right than, say, Microsoft.

Re:Stadia died because no one trusts Google by h0l0cube on Sunday October 02, 2022 @05:55AM (#33054528)
I agree with what you're saying, and I think you've said more accurately and with more detail, what I was trying to convey.

Edit: One thing to add... Google's history of 'solving highly technical problems' has really been more around scaling infrastructure, with their notable successful products being Google search, Maps, Gmail, and YouTube - with Android being an exception that rule if you'd call that a 'product'. Maps and Google assistance have some technical aspects, but nothing really out of the grasp of a modern startup. Technical ability for SaaS companies isn't really the moat it used to be.

Re:Stadia died because no one trusts Google by bitcharmer on Sunday October 02, 2022 @03:43AM (#33053830)
> Google was founded by algorithm nerds, and that's now part of the DNA of the company.

Not any more. These days their DNA is ads.

Re:Stadia died because no one trusts Google by random314 on Sunday October 02, 2022 @04:20AM (#33054027)
And ads need algorithms
Re:Stadia died because no one trusts Google by h0l0cube on Sunday October 02, 2022 @05:49AM (#33054493)
I agree with both those takes.