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Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by assttoasstmgr on Sunday October 02, 2022 @12:54AM (#33052981)
> Still, it is a fact that he has a doctorate.

This is false and insulting to people who earned real degrees.

He has an honorary doctorate. Which is about as worthless as if someone had the local trophy shoppe mint you a plaque that said "World's Greatest Hacker".

Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by matheusmoreira on Sunday October 02, 2022 @01:10AM (#33053050)
An honorary doctorate is still a doctorate, though. It doesn't have the usual academic requirements but it's not like universities just hand them out to anyone. It's supposed to denote a significant contribution to a field. Stallman did contribute significantly so I personally see no problem with it.
Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by kelnos on Sunday October 02, 2022 @02:19AM (#33053381)
> but it's not like universities just hand them out to anyone.

No, but at least in the US, they're often given out for things other than achievement in a particular field, like as unofficial quid-pro-quo for large donations to the university.

Perhaps that doesn't damn the practice entirely, as many are awarded for extraordinary contributions, but it does add an unfortunate extra step, having to ask the question, "did this person get this honor because they did amazing things, or because they paid amazing sums?"

Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by genewitch on Sunday October 02, 2022 @03:10AM (#33053676)
do you have any examples of someone who got an honorary doctorate by paying for it?
Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by pishpash on Sunday October 02, 2022 @01:45AM (#33053215)
Moreover, it is completely aligned with how Stallman operates. Most people do not have doctorates, so universities and recipients can arbitrage the "doctorate" title by a socially acceptable lie wherein the recipient understands to not use it like one. Stallman doesn't do socially acceptable lies. You either give him a doctorate and let him use it like one or you don't give him one. Socially acceptable lies where people "agree to disagree" are how principles get bent and if he were also this way he would have bent long ago.
Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by LtWorf on Sunday October 02, 2022 @03:04AM (#33053634)
Valentino Rossi (motorcycle pilot) has been calling himself "The Doctor" since receiving a honoris causa master degree in communication.
Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by frabert on Sunday October 02, 2022 @04:19AM (#33054021)
It's important to note that in Italy, the title of doctor works differently than in the German and anglophone world, and you are granted the title of "dottore" (doctor) with a bachelor's degree. A master's makes you a "dottore magistrale" and a PhD makes you a "dottore di ricerca" (research doctor)
Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by assttoasstmgr on Sunday October 02, 2022 @01:29AM (#33053136)
Dr. Linus Torvalds has entered the chat.
Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by josefx on Sunday October 02, 2022 @04:03AM (#33053927)
> An honorary doctorate is still a doctorate, though.

A honorary doctorate is to a doctorate as a honorary citizenship is to a citizenship. It does not imply any rights or qualifications and trying to pass it of as the real deal may be (and in some places is quite explicitly) considered fraud.

Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by pvaldes on Sunday October 02, 2022 @04:53PM (#33060157)
And in other places is not fraud. Your mileage may vary.
Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by codehalo on Sunday October 02, 2022 @01:12AM (#33053058)
But it is awarded by the very institutions that award "real degrees", not local trophy shoppes.
Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by pishpash on Sunday October 02, 2022 @01:06AM (#33053028)
Maybe universities should stop giving them out then. They can literary give any other honor but they choose to tie it to a doctorate and insult people who earn real degrees. How is Stallman the problem?
Re:An elegy for GNU and RMS by pvaldes on Sunday October 02, 2022 @05:31PM (#33060487)
Sometimes, people create entire new fields of knowledge. The idea that somebody could teach Shakespeare about Shakespeare's work is ludicrous. The idea that somebody could teach what is open source to Stallman for a limited period of time does not have any sense. He coined the term.

Honorary doctorates are created for this cases, when the recipient is --the-- expert in the field. Is a shortcut to encourage this experts to became teachers and pass their knowledge. Win-win. Do we really think that somebody spending four years writing a these about emacs knows more than Stallman about a program that he developped since 70's?

Is abused to groom donors? Yes, Sometimes is abused, but is a perfectly legit way to became a doctor.