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Re:Why Men Are Hard to Help by paulcole on Saturday October 01, 2022 @02:31PM (#33048802)
> The disgusting thing is that if one's value does plummet

A more disgusting thing to me is the idea that people see their partners (or believe their partners see them) as having “value” like they’re a breathing stock ticker symbol.

Re:Why Men Are Hard to Help by anonporridge on Saturday October 01, 2022 @02:44PM (#33048914)
"What people call "love" it's just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard, then it slowly fades, leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it, your parents are gonna do it, break the cycle Morty, focus on science."

The harsh reality of life is that all relationships are necessarily about value transference. If we're not stronger together than we are apart, then what the hell are we doing together. If you're sucking more value out of me than you're giving back, then you're a parasite and I'd be better off without you.

If you're not doing the calculation of whether a relationship is and will continue to be mutually beneficial, you're almost certainly going to become a host for a parasite.

Re:Why Men Are Hard to Help by paulcole on Saturday October 01, 2022 @03:58PM (#33049506)
Who is Morty?
Re:Why Men Are Hard to Help by heylook on Saturday October 01, 2022 @04:30PM (#33049813)
Re:Why Men Are Hard to Help by paulcole on Saturday October 01, 2022 @04:46PM (#33049958)
Oh geez. Isn’t that the show where the fans threw tantrums at McDonalds to get a special nugget sauce? Probably not where I’d look for life advice.
Re:Why Men Are Hard to Help by DangitBobby on Saturday October 01, 2022 @05:30PM (#33050313)
Based on the behavior of the fans? That doesn't make much sense.

In general it's not intended to offer advice, but there are some moments that invite thought, for sure.

Re:Why Men Are Hard to Help by paulcole on Saturday October 01, 2022 @06:00PM (#33050531)
Isn’t the creator also a bit of a narcissistic creep?
Re:Why Men Are Hard to Help by Thiez on Saturday October 01, 2022 @07:15PM (#33051072)
Are you going somewhere with these questions? If you disagree with the quote just say so, and say why. Discrediting the show, its fans, or its creator is just an ad hominem attack. And not a very good one at that, since you seem to be guessing.
Re:Why Men Are Hard to Help by steve_adams_86 on Saturday October 01, 2022 @04:25PM (#33049765)
TV show character (Rick and Morty)
Re:Why Men Are Hard to Help by mattgreenrocks on Saturday October 01, 2022 @02:42PM (#33048894)
I say value to mean "status," but for either word, I fully agree.

Something's profoundly wrong when people put so much importance on what is an externally mediated measure. I don't know what it points to other than a sort of spiritual void, but the status game is one you are statistically almost guaranteed to lose.

It is the thing I hate most about my 30s and 40s: the utter seriousness with which status is regarded.

Re:Why Men Are Hard to Help by quesera on Saturday October 01, 2022 @03:49PM (#33049433)
> It is the thing I hate most about my 30s and 40s: the utter seriousness with which status is regarded.

There are some sad stories in these threads.

I just want to add that not all partners are like this.

But the ones we attract in certain parts of our lives are definitely prone to it! When our self-identity (or at least our time and energy) is wrapped up in material success, or job prestige or some other externality, we attract people who agree with us.

It's a delicate edge, because most of us want to build, accomplish, achieve something that makes us proud of our efforts, and we dump a lot of that into "work" in our most-eligible years.

So if we "succeed", or move toward success, we attract those that see us the same way we imagine that part of ourselves.

And then the rest of life starts happening. I want to live in a van and see the national parks! I want to take the modest exit and move to the Caribbean. I want to get a dog and stop running in place in BigCity. I've saved enough and don't want to deal with issue X. Etc.

This new status is not always met with the same enthusiasm as the climbing part of our journey. We created the fiction, so maybe it's not completely fair to be disappointed when our focus shifts and theirs does not.

(I don't mean to suggest that I know anything about your life, I'm just riffing on your last sentence.)

Re:Why Men Are Hard to Help by CrazyPyroLinux on Saturday October 01, 2022 @04:12PM (#33049647)
> I want to get a dog and stop running in place in BigCity.

I can't recommend this enough!