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Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by throwawayhx on Friday September 30, 2022 @09:08PM (#33042759)
>>the video includes a three-second outburst of six F-words,

Having the F-word six times is enough for most parents to not want their 7 year old to watch. Even the author doesn't spell out the word.

Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by Ukv on Friday September 30, 2022 @09:31PM (#33042909)
The video was age restricted to 18+ which, here at least, requires the watcher to prove their age with credit card or ID photo: https://i.imgur.com/hujQk37.png

Whether the video is for kids (under 13) or not is a separate flag. This type of video would generally be not-for-kids but not also age restricted.

Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by whartung on Friday September 30, 2022 @10:53PM (#33043374)
Naturally standards change. However, back in the day there was a forgettable, campy slayer film called, I think, “Student Bodies”. I saw it because it was playing at the $2 double feature second run movie house and had air conditioning in the summer. I pretty much went there every week regardless of what was playing.

Anyway, in the middle of the movie, a fellow appears behind a desk and says something like “Everyone knows that movies with a R rating make more money. So in order for us to get that, ‘F… you’. “

And, that was apparently enough. Can’t speak to whether the tactic was effective.

Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by JadoJodo on Friday September 30, 2022 @09:30PM (#33042900)
This has been my struggle with YouTube, particularly gaming channels; I want to let my 9-year old watch fun Minecraft videos, but I have to “pre-watch” all of them since I have no idea which channels might have this kind of content dropped in the middle without warning.
Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by llanowarelves on Friday September 30, 2022 @09:47PM (#33042988)
Not exactly what you asked for but VidAngel is amazing for that on streaming.

You get as broad or granular set of filters you want. From nothing blocked, to individual instances of swear words or suggestiveness->nudity are all there. Or even things like crudeness, smoking. Etc. Incredible detailed control if yoy want it.

With easy toggles for the main categories.

And you can see the instances of each of those on each episode based on what you have. It's listed out before you hit play.

I have no affiliation, just thought it was cool for if I had kids.

Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by minton on Friday September 30, 2022 @09:59PM (#33043053)
I use this and it’s better than nothing. I’m hoping for a day when AI is powerful enough to filter these out not by skipping them but by altering them. Subbing in family-friendly alternatives for curse words and maybe blurring or clothing the nudity. Obviously some scene will still need to be skipped entirely.
Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by viraptor on Friday September 30, 2022 @10:23PM (#33043189)
I have absolutely no confidence in this. "family-friendly" is extremely context and culture specific. You'll get lots of people actively trying to push the boundary for fun.

On the weird extreme of that are the Spiderman/Elsa videos.

On the cultural extreme is Mr Rogers washing feet together with a black friend.

Are we going to update the filters with time as well? Or would we get stuck with no toilets or flushing forever?

There's a lot of old movies in my country where the nudity happened and it was extremely matter-of-fact - for example people go for a swim in the ocean so they're naked while they change. Those movies are way more family-friendly than what this filter would accept.

Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by rendall on Saturday October 01, 2022 @03:29AM (#33044741)
> Mr Rogers washing feet together with a black friend.

A Black, gay police officer, at that! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Clemmons

Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by llanowarelves on Saturday October 01, 2022 @12:26AM (#33043860)
Yeah I agree with the part of making it easier to do some of this stuff, heavily machine-assisted, even generative like you said, but will need a human at the end I think, to guide/audit and give stamp of approval. Flavors guided by culture like viraptor said.

It's one of those "I know it when I see it" things. To make sure nothing glitches, is weird, or the sum of parts not "off" somehow.

(Trying to synthesize both ideas)

Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by btilly on Friday September 30, 2022 @10:25PM (#33043197)
I am curious.

What kind of harm do you think it does for kids to hear this speech? I've never seen anything that should worry me about it.

And I say that as the father of 4.

Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by zackkitzmiller on Friday September 30, 2022 @10:35PM (#33043255)
My kids are now 13 and 17. We've cursed in front of them and "allowed" them to curse since they were little. Language is language and words aren't inheriently "bad." The idea that a list of 7 words is some how offensive is asinine.

My kids are exceptional students, smart, do all the same activites as other kids. All the other kids curse, too, they just pretend they don't in front of their parents. It's a very silly game.

Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by JadoJodo on Monday October 03, 2022 @03:26PM (#33072425)
> What kind of harm do you think it does for kids to hear this speech?

I guess it depends on what you mean by "harm". Hearing it every once in a while, it is certainly unlikely to affect them. But if it's frequent enough (as seems to be the case in the gaming community), it will set a level of normalization that I don't want to instill in my kids.

That being said, this is my own personal opinion, and no one else should feel obligated to share it.

Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by btilly on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @01:00PM (#33098156)
I taught my kids that swearing is contextual. In contexts where they are not supposed to swear, don't. And then I model that.

They've always known how to swear, but almost never do.

Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by zeta0134 on Friday September 30, 2022 @10:09PM (#33043128)
EthosLab is one of my favorite Minecraft players for this reason. Pretty much all of his content is good clean fun. When he's editing, like for PvP arenas, he's pretty good at muting teammates if they are more liberal with their speech, so his own videos don't have anything offensive.
Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS on Friday September 30, 2022 @11:50PM (#33043714)
ImpulseSV, GoodTimesWithScar, Grian, PearlescentMoon, BDubs... most (not all) of the Hermitcraft gang are PG.

Oh, and Skizzleman. Actually, Imp & Skizz's channel is great all around.

Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by springogeek on Saturday October 01, 2022 @02:31AM (#33044433)
Imp and Skizz are fantastic, as are the whole hermit crew. Wasn't expecting to see them get a mention on HN but it's refreshing.
Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS on Saturday October 01, 2022 @06:13PM (#33050616)
I forgot to mention TangoTek. If you want a real good time, watch their Friday Night Stabby Stabby streams (they play Among Us). It's got a great group including a lot of the above mentioned folks.
Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by cm2187 on Saturday October 01, 2022 @12:32AM (#33043892)
You can download the subtitles as a text file using youtube-dl. Should be faster than to actually listen to the video.
Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by cortesoft on Friday September 30, 2022 @11:19PM (#33043517)
As the father of a 7 and 3 year old, I never understand the desire to shelter kids from swearing. Instead, I teach my kids that some words are swear words and are only to be used in certain circumstances. It has worked well for me so far.
Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by davidcbc on Friday September 30, 2022 @11:35PM (#33043627)
YouTube's guidance says the following is ok:

Abbreviated, censored, or light profanity (like “hell” or “damn”) in the title, thumbnail, or video. Moderate profanity (like “shit” or “bitch”) used in the video. Infrequent usage of strong profanity (like the "f-word”) after the opening or up to twice in approx. the first 30 seconds of the video; or strong profanity in a music video.

Re:YouTube age-restriction quagmire exposed by 78-minute Meg... by daguava on Friday September 30, 2022 @11:05PM (#33043442)
It was under a category which accepts that, and --- given the timespan, dominated such a tiny fraction of the video that it's almost unheard of.