Re:Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to ...
by thehappypm on Friday September 30, 2022 @02:33PM
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This kind of feels like doublespeak. Most migrants come for work, not to escape persecution. Economic migrants use asylum as a way to avoid being deported.
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Re:Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to ...
by cycrutchfield on Friday September 30, 2022 @03:00PM
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From a legal standpoint that is irrelevant. Until their asylum case is adjudicated, they are here legally.
Re:Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to ...
by thehappypm on Friday September 30, 2022 @03:33PM
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all immigration is legal if you claim to be an asylum seeker. It’s not intended to be a deportation-delayer for economic migrants.
Re:Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to ...
by cycrutchfield on Friday September 30, 2022 @04:02PM
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Cool. How do you decide who is an economic migrant?
Re:Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to ...
by coryrc on Friday September 30, 2022 @04:56PM
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If they traveled through another country (Mexico) which could grant asylum, but chose not to stay there.
Re:Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to ...
by cycrutchfield on Friday September 30, 2022 @07:05PM
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If it were that easy, why aren’t they doing that?
Re:Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to ...
by the_third_wave on Friday September 30, 2022 @07:46PM
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I can't speak for these people but I do know why this happens in Sweden (where I live): because the Swedish state provides lavish benefits, a lot more than neighbouring countries. This fact is taken by human smugglers, blown out of all proportions where they promise migrants that they'll get a house and a car and a girlfriend (not a joke) if only they pay them €€€€ to be dumped into a leaky boat across the Mediterranean.
Re:Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to ...
by thehappypm on Friday September 30, 2022 @09:11PM
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Because they arent seeking asylum!
They want jobs.
Re:Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to ...
by cycrutchfield on Friday September 30, 2022 @11:57PM
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Sorry, I wasn't precise enough with my language. I was saying if it is that easy to determine who has a legitimate asylum claim, then why don't the courts do so?
Re:Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to ...
by coryrc on Saturday October 01, 2022 @03:30AM
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When they actually show up to court, they're usually not granted asylum. But we have teens of millions of people living here illegally, it's not hard to avoid the authorities.
Re:Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to ...
by cycrutchfield on Saturday October 01, 2022 @11:06AM
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For some reason we keep talking past one another. I’m talking about why CBP doesn’t just turn away asylum seekers that transit via Mexico if it is so easy to determine in advance that their asylum claims are not legitimate.
For some reason you keep railing against illegal immigrants instead of actually engaging in productive discussion.
Re:Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to ...
by thehappypm on Sunday October 02, 2022 @02:26AM
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CBP is not authorized to do so. Asylum must go before a judge.
Re:Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to ...
by thehappypm on Saturday October 01, 2022 @09:30AM
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This is exactly what I’ve been saying. Many migrants don’t even show up to their asylum hearings.. they just use it as a deportation delayer. You’d think 100% of migrants would show up if they were serious but its only like 80%.
Re:Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to ...
by bigmattystyles on Friday September 30, 2022 @03:47PM
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Then change the law, you can't have it both ways.
Also - if they weren't here legally before the stunt then the governor of Florida literally smuggled people into the country, which he cannot do as immigration is the federal government's purview.
The thing is, there is a decent point that border states bare the brunt of illegal immigration issues but to draw attention to it at the expense of poor humans is just despicable.