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Re:Bill Gates: You’ll never solve climate change by asking p... by Gigachad on Friday September 30, 2022 @01:12AM (#33031259)
Bill calls for greater innovation, but as soon as we get more efficient things, we just consume more.

We have constantly gotten better and better tech, and yet our consumption of resources only goes up. It seems that resource usage has nothing to do with how efficient or advanced our tech is, but simply the maximum amount of human labor we can allocate to resource extracting.

So climate change can only really be solved by a lower population.

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Re:Bill Gates: You’ll never solve climate change by asking p... by syockit on Friday September 30, 2022 @03:22AM (#33031957)
> but as soon as we get more efficient things, we just consume more.

A phenomenon known as Jevons paradox.

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Re:Bill Gates: You’ll never solve climate change by asking p... by The_Amp_Walrus on Friday September 30, 2022 @01:31AM (#33031344)
> as soon as we get more efficient things, we just consume more

That doesn't seem to be true in terms of C02 output

https://www.google.com/search?q=us+carbon+emissions+per+capi...

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Re:Bill Gates: You’ll never solve climate change by asking p... by throwanapple on Friday September 30, 2022 @02:06AM (#33031520)
Look more globally.
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Re:Bill Gates: You’ll never solve climate change by asking p... by t0bia_s on Friday September 30, 2022 @07:02AM (#33033358)
"So climate change can only really be solved by a lower population."

It sounds like Nazi slogan.

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