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Re:Why “go nuts, show nuts” doesn’t work in 2022 by giantg2 on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:32PM (#33029768)
"But where status quo is also an expression of power, there can also be an onus to justify its existence."

That's literally every law.

"Which is all to say, the onus isn’t on anyone to unjustify something that’s wrong"

The onus would be to show that "something" is wrong for that logic to even apply. As you said "you’re making the claim, you defend it.". Society already decided that it was wrong and formed a law, so now it's time to hear why it shouldn't be (I'm interested in research on either side).

Re:Why “go nuts, show nuts” doesn’t work in 2022 by noptd on Friday September 30, 2022 @08:21AM (#33033895)
I disagree. You're essentially claiming that the need to prove an effect is removed once something is enshrined into law and that's not only illogical but dangerous to boot.
Re:Why “go nuts, show nuts” doesn’t work in 2022 by giantg2 on Friday September 30, 2022 @09:31AM (#33034599)
"You're essentially claiming that the need to prove an effect is removed once something is enshrined into law"

This is a gross misinterpretation bordering on trolling. I'm not sure how you could even come to this position.

Please show me how what I've actually said is illogical and dangerous. Please remember that in the scenario we are talking about neither side has provided evidence one way or the other. Somebody would need to provide evidence one way or the other to shift the status quo, as shifting that requires flipping the convictions of the population, or at least the leaders.

Re:Why “go nuts, show nuts” doesn’t work in 2022 by eyelidlessness on Thursday September 29, 2022 @10:43PM (#33030261)
You seem to be more interested in the argument than the conversation. Thankfully, I no longer want either.