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Re:Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet le... by forgetfreeman on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @11:11AM (#33008922)
That is easily the most wildly inaccurate categorization of conservative positions on sex work I have ever, and am ever likely to, encounter. Conservatives (in the US anyway) view sex work as grossly amoral and sex workers as sub-human and a threat to the community. Collectively they don't give a flying fuck at a rolling donut about sex worker safety, they just want it banned outright through any means necessary.
Re:Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet le... by Brian_K_White on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @11:22AM (#33009046)
Fact. "for their own safety" is just the sales pitch / cover story.
Re:Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet le... by throwaway4aday on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @11:40AM (#33009262)
Opinions vary. Certainly many people, not just conservatives would think that sex work is immoral. I don't believe I've ever met someone that believes sex workers are subhuman, that reeks of hyperbole. The perception of sex work as a threat to community is probably wider spread still, in its current form it certainly isn't conducive to safety for anyone involved.

Overall, you're simply setting up a strawman that poorly characterizes your opponents. There are many reasons why someone would oppose sex work, including concern over the safety of the sex workers. Even if it were fully legalized and regulated there would still be significant risk when you have two people who don't know each other well in a room alone together and questions of sex and money are money are involved. Especially if it is a physically stronger man with a woman. The more cogent arguments take that into consideration along with the other effects such as sex workers becoming trapped in the occupation, the poor prospects for aging workers to earn an income or be able to retire, the second order effects on the community which are poorly understood but could be far reaching, economic effects of making the occupation more available to the working age population who might otherwise pursue other careers, etc. All of that generally lines up with the conservative take on any change which is to ask "Are you sure you have considered all of the consequences?" and "Do the benefits outweigh the costs both short term and long term?".

Re:Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet le... by forgetfreeman on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @12:50PM (#33010170)
It reeks of hyperbole you say? I invite you to attend services at the Southern Baptist church of your choosing and then try bringing up the topic of sex workers after services. Depending on where you attempt this you might make it to your car under your own power.

Your claim that I'm advancing a strawman argument here strongly suggests to me that you may not have a solid grasp on conservative attitudes on this topic. I assure you Alabama (for example) exists, and it's residents absolutely have opinions about things.

Re:Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet le... by vorpalhex on Thursday September 29, 2022 @10:38AM (#33021310)
I actually grew up in a Southern Baptist church, worked in it for a few years and still ocassionally interact with that community.

First of all it's a diverse community, both in skin color and in national origin. Second, I have never seen any member of that group do any worse than engage in debate. That you "might not make it to your car" is such hilarious hyperbole that it's bordering on satire.

That sex work is dangerous, leads to the abuse of women and often times is associated with sex trafficking is their view. They will tell you that. Some of the people, at least from my families church, were sex trafficking victims. Many of them help support and house battered women, help provide rape counseling on a weekly basis, and otherwise certainly have at least anecdotal reasons for their beliefs.

Re:Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet le... by forgetfreeman on Thursday October 06, 2022 @10:15AM (#33108427)
You aren't the only one here who grew up in a Southern Baptist church and buddy I see you over there pretending the 700 club isn't a thing. I've seen fist fights break out during funeral services on more than one occasion so don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining.
Re:Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet le... by throwaway4aday on Thursday September 29, 2022 @08:13AM (#33019467)
You said, and I quote:

> Conservatives (in the US anyway) view sex work as...

You did not specify Southern Baptist church members, which I am sure form a part of the entire set of conservatives in the US but do not solely comprise it. I'm also sure that Alabama doesn't consist of 100% conservative leaning people nor do I believe that all of its conservatives share the same opinions. Please try to think clearly, I don't have time to correct all of your statements.

Re:Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet le... by forgetfreeman on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:52AM (#33020618)
From the parent:

"I don't think conservatives are attempting to endanger sex workers - they believe sex work is fundamentally risky and leads to abuse."

Having established that you don't refute my claim that (at minimum) large portions of the conservative constituency take a militantly hard line on the topic of sex work that puts us a lot closer to "well, I knew this guy once who claimed to be a conservative that also said this thing once" than "the conservative position on sex work is X". If you insist I can absolutely compile a list of links of everything from "religious leaders" to pundits and politicians openly railing against sex workers. Your sassy banter doesn't impress.

Re:Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet le... by thundrio on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @12:25PM (#33009847)
Prostitution has been legal in Amsterdam since 2000, so a good percentage of the current sex workers were born into that world. Has someone done a case study on the long term effects?
Re:Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet le... by throwaway4aday on Thursday September 29, 2022 @08:14AM (#33019478)
I'd be interested to know, it's worth reading up on.
Re:Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet le... by ashout33 on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @12:13PM (#33009689)
Really well thought out reply. Thanks for taking the time to write this, it really helped me understand conservative positions on not legalizing prostitution
Re:Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet le... by scotty79 on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @12:22PM (#33009796)
Framing something in moral terms breeds desire for punishment.