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Re:Nord Stream: Tie-ins and hyperbaric welding by tuatoru on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @03:58AM (#33005355)
> Resist going for "Clearly, Russia!". Just spitballing here, but why not a German opposition group? Norway? Poland? Any activist group opposed to EU dependence on Russia?

Why treat "Russia" as a unitary actor? By doing this, Putin takes away a major reason for deposing him - whoever takes over is not going to get those sweet, sweet Euro millions in return for stopping the invasion and withdrawing. It's a game-theoretic commitment device, on this view.

Likewise it's a mistake to treat Poland as unitary. It's likely that at least some people in Poland would like the West to commit to defending Ukraine, because if Ukraine falls, Poland suddenly borders the Russian empire. There is history between Poland and Russia.

And there are a bunch of Ukrainian refugees in Poland...they would also like the West to continue their support for Ukraine.

> Shit, why not Danish anarchists, for that matter?

Or Danish wind turbine manufacturers who want to force commitment to renewables?

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Re:Nord Stream: Tie-ins and hyperbaric welding by gambiting on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @03:59AM (#33005370)
>>because if Ukraine falls, Poland suddenly borders the Russian empire.

Poland already has a border with Russia. But yes, we would very much prefer not to make it an even bigger one.

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Re:Nord Stream: Tie-ins and hyperbaric welding by rendall on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @05:12AM (#33005974)
> Or Danish wind turbine manufacturers who want to force commitment to renewables?

I mean, sure. I know you're being sarcastic in order to dismiss the "Anyone but Russia" theory, but do cast the net more widely than Russia or the US.

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Re:Nord Stream: Tie-ins and hyperbaric welding by rendall on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:52AM (#33005830)
> Putin takes away a major reason for deposing him - whoever takes over is not going to get those sweet, sweet Euro millions in return for stopping the invasion and withdrawing.

Do you think that someone intending to depose Putin will now not do it because the Nord Streams are gone?

Ya'll are really stretching. Sorry, but, consider who benefits directly from ending European dependence on Russian energy? If your first thought is "Russia" you... I just... don't know what to tell you.

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