I mostly spend time on sites that I use multiple times a day. I prefer that those sites are designed for people who use them multiple times a day, not for people who visit once, from HN.

This might be targeting a minority of users - it’s design for power users. I’d expect HN to be supportive of this sort of design.

> This might be targeting a minority of users - it’s design for power users. I’d expect HN to be supportive of this sort of design.

You'd expect.. But please listen.

If I am on my pc with a mouse getting to top is either a click or button combo away, so this popping up stuff is a net loss.

Its even worse on the phones where you sometimes get header plus some commercial and maybe a cookie banner, interacting with each other trying to figure out how to close them in order is a puzzle.

There have been maybe 1 or 2 sites out of all that i have visited, that I didn't immediately hate the banner.

To me it become a "site smell". So if I have an option I'll go elsewhere for my needs.

Nobody likes it except developers of these annoyances themselves. It's not power, it's toxic annoying dickbar.

Why would HN be supportive of this toxic attitude towards users?

What's wrong with a small ▾ icon you could tap to bring up the menu? Then tap again to hide it? Crucially, without changing what content's scrollTop with either action? I'd expect (haha) power-users to be capable of tapping on an indicator to bring up (or down) the menu...