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Re:Closing a 30 pixel gap between native and web by banana_giraffe on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @05:31PM (#33001370)
I don't disagree.

It's for this kind of nonsense that I have "alt-space -> s -> down -> right" burned into my fingertips followed by moving the mouse cursor to resize a window deterministically (along with "alt-space -> m -> any arrow" for move, doubly useful to "rescue" an off screen window)

Re:Closing a 30 pixel gap between native and web by jolmg on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @05:36PM (#33001427)
> alt-space -> s -> down -> right

> alt-space -> m -> any arrow

Are those keybindings default on a particular OS/DE/WM/WC or are they just your personal config?

Re:Closing a 30 pixel gap between native and web by banana_giraffe on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @05:39PM (#33001475)
Default behavior for Windows applications (since 3.x, I think). Alt-Space brings up the Window menu.

Some odd-ball apps will replace it with their own menu, but few apps go to the effort to override the default shortcut it, even if they otherwise hide it.

Re:Closing a 30 pixel gap between native and web by bm-rf on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @05:38PM (#33001466)
Works on windows for me. Also never really thought about this for rescuing a stuck window, I've always used winkey + arrow keys and kept mashing buttons until it appears on one of my monitors :P
Re:Closing a 30 pixel gap between native and web by sedatk on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @05:38PM (#33001457)
Alt-space menu is Windows specific IIRC.
Re:Closing a 30 pixel gap between native and web by mixmastamyk on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:15AM (#33005482)
Re:Closing a 30 pixel gap between native and web by sedatk on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @02:10PM (#33011197)
It makes sense since Motif was based on OS/2 Presentation Manager which was also the basis for Windows 3.1's look.
Re:Closing a 30 pixel gap between native and web by drekipus on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @05:52PM (#33001589)
Gnome does the same, I use it all the time for "pin window always on top"

Which windows still doesn't have, for some reason.

Re:Closing a 30 pixel gap between native and web by quotemstr on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @08:08PM (#33002797)
Gnome doesn't have menu accelerators in the window menu though, so "alt-spc n" does nothing: the alt-spc brings up the window menu, but the n doesn't activate "minimize". This interaction not functioning in Gnome keeps me off Gnome entirely.
Re:Closing a 30 pixel gap between native and web by drekipus on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @10:07PM (#33003503)
super+h minimises. pretty sure you can make it anything you want.

if you're looking specifically for "alt-spc n" to minimise I'm sure you can find a way to make that work - but why? to retain muscle memory between windows and gnome?

Re:Closing a 30 pixel gap between native and web by Falkon1313 on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @12:04AM (#33004125)
My keyboard doesn't have a 'super' key. What does that translate to on a normal keyboard?
Re:Closing a 30 pixel gap between native and web by drekipus on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @03:08AM (#33005050)
Windows key, but like I said you can change it to anything you want.

I'm pretty sure there's an option to emulate the windows key somewhere too

Re:Closing a 30 pixel gap between native and web by opan on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @08:09PM (#33002800)
I think openbox uses it as well.