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Re:Harrison Bergeron (1961) by mcguire on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @03:32PM (#33000003)
Given the test-driven nature of modern education in the US, having 1000 kids that can just read at grade level is better than having 985 kids at grade level, 5 below, and 10 above. Any resources spent on the latter would be better spent on the 5 that are below grade level.
Re:Harrison Bergeron (1961) by soulofmischief on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @07:07PM (#33002285)
We need to empower geniuses if we have any hope of progressing our knowledge as a species. This means a chief priority should be to find and pay special attention to geniuses regardless of social class.

That doesn't mean there is a false dichotomy where we can't also achieve baseline literacy for all; that's a complex sociological problem which might take a genius to solve.

Re:Harrison Bergeron (1961) by LazarWolf_ on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @05:45PM (#33001533)
I think this argument presupposes that denying resourcing for the 10 will definitely improve the success of the 5.

Personal side note; I’ve tended to find that exceptional people are more productive with the resources given. So I find it hard to believe the inverse would also be true.

Re:Harrison Bergeron (1961) by mcguire on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:17PM (#33012713)
I think I misstated my argument. :-)

The way schools are currently measured, the 5 are very, very important and the 10 are completely irrelevant. The only judgement is how many of the students are below the appropriate skill level. I don't believe anyone even measures how much in advance of the skill level students at or above the minimum are.

Re:Harrison Bergeron (1961) by WalterBright on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @10:37PM (#33003667)
How can you determine if the students learned anything without testing?
Re:Harrison Bergeron (1961) by mcguire on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:12PM (#33012642)
How do you know a prospective employee is worth hiring without testing?
Re:Harrison Bergeron (1961) by WalterBright on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:21PM (#33012753)
Indeed. That's why they get tested.
Re:Harrison Bergeron (1961) by mcguire on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:41PM (#33012965)
Would you hire them based only on a competency test?

This is how schools are judged: what proportion of their students pass a minimum competency test.