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Re:Apple removed all VK and Mail.ru applications from the Ap... by bpodgursky on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @11:45AM (#32996880)
This argument is dumb because Estonia and Latvia are already on their border.

There's nothing NATO can do with Ukraine they couldn't already do with the Baltics.

Re:Apple removed all VK and Mail.ru applications from the Ap... by seba_dos1 on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @12:07PM (#32997224)
It's more than dumb. Russia's current actions are actually only now making NATO presence in the region tangibly stronger (see: Sweden, Finland). This wouldn't happen without Putin invading Ukraine.
Re:Apple removed all VK and Mail.ru applications from the Ap... by monocasa on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @01:12PM (#32998176)
The difference is whether or not you're on the open plains leading to Moscow. The eastern edge of the Carpathian Mountains has always been a hard line for Russia, going back to the middle ages, because once the plain to Moscow opens up, it's nearly indefensible. That edge is in eastern Ukraine.

It's a very 19th/20th century view on 21st century geopolitics, but hey, that's modern Russia for you.

Re:Apple removed all VK and Mail.ru applications from the Ap... by the_third_wave on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @01:19PM (#32998272)
And Lithuania, bordering Kaliningrad which is a - highly militarised - Russian enclave bordering Poland and Lithuania.