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Re:Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day by tokai on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @07:25AM (#32993908)
I have seen this line of thinking multiple places. It doesn't make any sense. Russia makes the energy crisis by turning off the gas. Destruction of the nordstream line only makes it impossible to start the gas exporting in case Russia want to sell it again and/or the sanctions are lifted. The obvious result of this is making sure that trade relationships with Russia can't go back to normal anytime soon.
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Re:Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day by koheripbal on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @09:30AM (#32994994)
Nordstream 2 is fully functional and can be turned on at any time. ...and it carries far more capacity.
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Re:Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day by JoachimS on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @10:38AM (#32995811)
Nordstream 2 was fully functional.
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Re:Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day by tokai on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @10:41AM (#32995857)
No its not. It was damaged like Nordstream 1.
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Re:Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day by room606 on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @11:36AM (#32996737)
AFAIK, only one of the NS2 pipelines has been damaged. Both branches of NS1 are leaking but there has only been one reported leak on NS2
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Re:Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day by tremon on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @07:29AM (#32993942)
Russia makes the energy crisis by turning off the gas

Yes, but this way Putin can plausibly deny that it was a policy decision. Same with novichok poisonings: everyone knows Putin's pulling the strings, nobody can prove he did.

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Re:Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day by ajsnigrutin on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @07:55AM (#32994184)
WHy would putin deny that? He said he'll do that more than once:

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/putin-blames-germany...

Putin wants the pipelines open, because europe knows that the minute they sit down and reach a deal with russia, the valves get open, europe gets the gas.

Now europe is fucked, and even if local people protest due to cold, sitting down with putin won't bring back enough gas, so there is less incentive to actually make a deal.

But I'm sure USA will profit by selling overpriced gas to europe.

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Re:Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day by 988747 on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @08:05AM (#32994288)
Those things do not take long to fix. In fact that's exactly what Putin needs right now: an excuse to stop the gas flow for a few weeks, until the pipeline is repaired. Then of course there will be some time until they test it, and then some bureaucrat in Moscow needs to sign off the certification and allow resuming pumping - which allows Putin to drag this out for as long as he needs.
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Re:Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day by tokai on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @08:13AM (#32994369)
The flow was already stopped before this. So your analysis does not line up with reality.
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Re:Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day by 988747 on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @08:24AM (#32994452)
Yes, but they stopped it based on their previous excuse. I think first it was some spare part that was stuck in Canada due to sanctions, then they had to do "routine maintenance" of some pump station, then the same for another pump station, and now we have a leak. As you can see they never stop the flow "just because".
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