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Re:Cost of public EV charging rises by more than 42% in four... by ls15 on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @02:23AM (#32992058)
When I see EVs that are charging at public spots in cities, I assume that the owners for some reason do not care about money. Either because their are rich, or because it is some kind of business expense for them.
Re:Cost of public EV charging rises by more than 42% in four... by gambiting on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @02:44AM (#32992180)
Why would you assume that? I know someone who has an EV but lives at a home without a driveway, public charging is the only way for him to actually you know, use that car. As EVs become more and more popular, that's how most people will charge their cars, it's not like everyone has a house with a driveway.
Re:Cost of public EV charging rises by more than 42% in four... by the_mitsuhiko on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @02:27AM (#32992079)
I’m confident that most public charging are long distance travellers away from home with limited choice.
Re:Cost of public EV charging rises by more than 42% in four... by tirant on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @03:27AM (#32992425)
Not really. Electricity tariffs can be pretty competitive if you shop around.

I own an EV and I have never charged at home, even though I have my own garage. My average electricity costs at home are around 0.30€/kWh. Meanwhile, 30% of my charges have been cost-free and the rest I'm paying between 0.12€/kWh and 0.39/kWh.

The investment required to install a wallbox is not really worth it at the moment. It would just add convenience.

Re:Cost of public EV charging rises by more than 42% in four... by tmikaeld on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @02:40AM (#32992154)
Lower-cost EVs have a limited battery capacity, so it's unavoidable when traveling between cities.

Charging at night with hourly pricing, is just 0.06€/KwH (Sweden) (But going up due to industries switching to night shifts..).

Re:Cost of public EV charging rises by more than 42% in four... by ls15 on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @02:44AM (#32992179)
> 0.06€/KwH

Is that in the UK? I think in Germany the cost for providers is already above 0.20€/KwH at the moment and the prices at home are typically higher. Mine is about 0.40€/KwH at the moment.

Re:Cost of public EV charging rises by more than 42% in four... by tirant on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @03:17AM (#32992363)
In Germany there are already Smart Electricity suppliers which also provide a Wallbox in order to automatically charge your car whenever certain price threshold is reached. You could for example configure it to charge your car when prices are even negative. That's not so common anymore, but we had a price of -0.08€/kWh on 21.05.2021. 10 days ago, the prices were also pretty low (0.02€).

https://www.awattar.de/tariffs/hourlycap

Re:Cost of public EV charging rises by more than 42% in four... by mellavora on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @03:27AM (#32992430)
Nice theory, assumes that prices stay below your threshold long enough for the car to charge. It can happen, as your examples show, but can it happen at scale, i.e. when 1 in 10 people are running "full house equivalent" energy requests every time the price drops below say 0.02 EUR/kWh?

Been pricing electicity derivatives at work last week; with that context I'm now thinking of your scheme as a limit order, and what happens when the market is oversaturated with limit order?

Re:Cost of public EV charging rises by more than 42% in four... by Hamuko on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @02:47AM (#32992201)
Night-time electricity can be practically free at times, since people are asleep and a lot of businesses aren't operating. You just need to be on a plan where you pay different rates during the day and night.
Re:Cost of public EV charging rises by more than 42% in four... by tmikaeld on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @02:47AM (#32992200)
South Sweden, if we didn't export huge amounts of energy to Germany and shut down 4 nuclear plants (With 20+ years left of life), it would be a permanent < 0.06/KwH.
Re:Cost of public EV charging rises by more than 42% in four... by bradlys on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @04:39AM (#32992903)
Funny - I assume the opposite because they're spending their time at a charger rather than plugging it in at home. If they can't charge at home - that probably means they don't have a home but maybe an apartment without a garage that has EV hookups which means they probably don't have much money.

The other alternative is road tripping.

Re:Cost of public EV charging rises by more than 42% in four... by cvak on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @06:53AM (#32993683)
can confirm, have business ev charging card, free parking baby.