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Re:Downturn career decisions by datalopers on Sunday September 25, 2022 @10:19PM (#32978591)
I straight up don't hire people with repeated short tenures. Their ego is always far beyond their capability, and there are plenty of now doomed VC-backed startups to fuel their path.
Re:Downturn career decisions by snotrockets on Monday September 26, 2022 @01:05AM (#32979625)
I would hope that by now, people won't be as privileged to assume that employment length is unrelated to other issues that people won't publicly talk about.

For URMs, short stints can be because of toxic environments, just as long tenure for immigrants might be due to visa requirements.

Re:Downturn career decisions by wahnfrieden on Monday September 26, 2022 @08:02AM (#32982038)
The poster would reject someone for being sexually harassed out companies before they were able to determine their own tenure
Re:Downturn career decisions by makeitdouble on Sunday September 25, 2022 @10:23PM (#32978621)
I'm interested in how you view consultants and contractors. They will be on the job for a few months, or a year or two at most, and move on to the next contract. How do you handle them compared to people with short tenures ?

(vice-versa: how would you deal with a full time employee that you know might not be there a year or two but could be valuable in the meantime)

Re:Downturn career decisions by kamaal on Sunday September 25, 2022 @11:30PM (#32979072)
The right metric should be to measure how many turnkey projects you have done.

If you are known to abandon projects midway hoping others to cleap up or build up after you. It should be plainly obvious, you are not some one who gets work done.

Re:Downturn career decisions by cbm-vic-20 on Sunday September 25, 2022 @10:30PM (#32978657)
It also means they don't stick around to deal with the consequences of the decisions they make.
Re:Downturn career decisions by aastronaut on Monday September 26, 2022 @02:55AM (#32980238)
It could also mean they stick around just as long as to notice that they have to deal with the consequences of the decisions they inherited and cannot change.
Re:Downturn career decisions by throwawaygal7 on Sunday September 25, 2022 @11:18PM (#32978990)
I agree in general, but i also think hoping in early career helps people get good experience. If you're over thirty, I don't understand it but in your early 20s you honestly need to to get a good role.
Re:Downturn career decisions by mrmuagi on Sunday September 25, 2022 @10:37PM (#32978704)
There are a lot of reasons why tenure might be short, but many short tenures, I agree are alarming because people are more lenient when a developer "ramps" up. If they are able to stick around and get promoted, that's a strong counter signal.

I'm curious, but not to pry the exact details, how long are your tenures on average -- and would you similiarly penalize someone who worked at one company for many years?

Re:Downturn career decisions by synicalx on Sunday September 25, 2022 @10:40PM (#32978724)
How do you feel about former contractors? A lot of (fairly lucrative) contract roles are often 6-12 months maybe a shade longer with extensions.
Re:Downturn career decisions by nyokodo on Sunday September 25, 2022 @11:10PM (#32978922)
> How do you feel about former contractors?

Contractors with repeat business at the same client is a positive signal. Otherwise evaluating a former contractor for a role is about whether they’re interested enough to stick around long enough for the intended achievements of the role.

Re:Downturn career decisions by FlyingSnake on Monday September 26, 2022 @04:50AM (#32980843)
> Contractors with repeat business at the same client is a positive signal

This is not universal and doesn't work for many countries like Germany where you need to avoid "shadow employment/scheinselbständigkeit" with the same client.

Re:Downturn career decisions by kamaal on Sunday September 25, 2022 @11:28PM (#32979060)
Drifters are always a problem, this doesn't happen just with their employment choices, but in general drifting is a habit, that applies to a spectrum of things in life.

The reasons go deep. They are often connected to being lazy, unmotivated and even just plainly unwilling to commit to any non-trivial effort work.

Re:Downturn career decisions by antupis on Monday September 26, 2022 @03:30AM (#32980425)
How long are these "short tenures" less than 2 years?