Charging cars at home at night is not the way to go: study

Re:Charging cars at home at night is not the way to go: study by tacostakohashi on Friday September 23, 2022 @06:53PM (#32958025)

We're talking about an industry that has failed to standardize on a single, interchangeable charging plug here.

What do you think the chances of a single, interchangeable battery for such a "battery station" to remove, recharge, replace are? Or are you proposing such stations for each individual manufacturer, model, model year, etc?

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Re:Charging cars at home at night is not the way to go: study by meatmanek on Friday September 23, 2022 @07:22PM (#32958225)

The industry _has_ standardized, except for one hold-out (Tesla):

https://youtu.be/sZOuz_laH9I?t=990

> CCS is the established industry standard DC fast-charging connector, and every automaker selling cars for the US market is already using it, or, in the case of Nissan, has pledged to use it going forward. Except, oh right, except for... them [Tesla].

The charger situation is quite analogous to Lightning vs. USB-C for smartphones. USB-C is the industry standard, and there's one manufacturer still using a proprietary connector. And in both cases, the hold-out manufacturer provides an adapter cable so you can use the standard connector.

(To your point about standardized batteries having approximately 0% chance of happening any time soon, I 100% agree.)

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Re:Charging cars at home at night is not the way to go: study by SeanLuke on Saturday September 24, 2022 @11:23AM (#32963526)

There is an important point to make here though. I love me some Technology Connections, and am hardly a Tesla fan (in fact just bought a non-Tesla EV). But Tesla's connectors are unquestionably superior to the hideousness that is CCS. Tesla settled early on an elegant connector, and true to form, the rest of the auto industry settled on garbage, literally tacking DC pins onto the outside of a J-1772, much like the monstrosity that is the USB Micro B SS plug design.

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Re:Charging cars at home at night is not the way to go: study by CryptoBanker on Friday September 23, 2022 @06:58PM (#32958051)

They haven’t standardized because they haven’t been given an incentive to standardize. I would argue that perhaps the incentives mentioned in the article could be given to companies instead to encourage them to standardize in plugs and batteries, but many people prefer to see financial incentives given to people instead of corporations

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Re:Charging cars at home at night is not the way to go: study by sidewndr46 on Friday September 23, 2022 @07:23PM (#32958231)

Let's just ignore the total of end-user standardization like a charging plug.

They can't even put the gas filler on the same side universally on all vehicles. They can't even make the way you access it universal. Ever seen a car from the 70s where it was hidden behind the license plate?

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Re:Charging cars at home at night is not the way to go: study by tacostakohashi on Friday September 23, 2022 @07:29PM (#32958287)

> Ever seen a car from the 70s where it was hidden behind the license plate?

Yes, I have. Those are kind of cool, because it is equidistant from both sides.

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Re:Charging cars at home at night is not the way to go: study by jjav on Saturday September 24, 2022 @03:02AM (#32960302)

> They can't even put the gas filler on the same side universally on all vehicles.

The side is a a non-issue. The important part is that the hose connection is standard. Any ICE car I could possibly buy can be fueled at any gas station anywhere, the hose always works.

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Re:Charging cars at home at night is not the way to go: study by badrabbit on Friday September 23, 2022 @07:26PM (#32958264)

Governments can mandate this just like electrical outlets and emissions requirements.

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