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Re:‘We don’t have to feel like prey’: the female joggers run... by wrp on Friday September 23, 2022 @08:58AM (#32951293)
I have been mugged, in dangerous places, as a young adult. I think that being armed in those situations would have greatly increased my chances of being more seriously harmed. Those experiences taught me to be more aware of potentially dangerous situations. Although I'm not against personal firearms in principle, I believe that teaching greater awareness rather than arming is a more productive approach to safety.
Re:‘We don’t have to feel like prey’: the female joggers run... by krageon on Friday September 23, 2022 @09:11AM (#32951431)
More weapons in any conflict only lead to less safety, not more. I've been trying for a lot of years to tell US gun proponents this but I have never managed to have it land.
Re:‘We don’t have to feel like prey’: the female joggers run... by locutous on Friday September 23, 2022 @11:03AM (#32952876)
Yet your conclusion, spoken as if it is a universal truth, is wrong in many instances.

There have been numerous events of a concealed weapon holder killing an individual intent on a mass murder event that's just getting started. They generally get zero media play because they don't fit the narrative of gun -> bad.

Regardless, telling people they can't choose the means with which they can reasonably defend themselves is authoritarian and evil. Nobody can guarantee safety, thus, nobody can rightly deny the right to defend oneself how best it seems to them to do so. Some dangerous circumstances are unfortunately common which do not wait for the police, let alone courts.

Re:‘We don’t have to feel like prey’: the female joggers run... by orwin on Friday September 23, 2022 @02:31PM (#32955484)
When affirming stuff like this, you should really add sources.
Re:‘We don’t have to feel like prey’: the female joggers run... by locutous on Monday September 26, 2022 @09:25AM (#32982810)
I hear about them every so often, I don't compile or keep a list.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/201...

Re:‘We don’t have to feel like prey’: the female joggers run... by DuskStar on Friday September 23, 2022 @02:52PM (#32955668)
Off the top of my head, there was a shooting in a mall food court stopped by a concealed carrier in Indiana a month or two back, and another in a Texas church maybe 2 years ago.
Re:‘We don’t have to feel like prey’: the female joggers run... by igetspam on Friday September 23, 2022 @08:26PM (#32958660)
Numerous! Wow. More than one??? That's nifty. Maybe they should be cops.

Anyway... to the topic at hand. How do you feel about violence toward ladies? It'd be nice for one conversation about self defense and violence against women to not be detailed by stupid arguments about concealed carry or open carry or men get ouchies too.

Can we please talk about how this shouldn't be reality? How women should feel afraid? How one in four women should be the victim of sexual assault by the time they reach adulthood? Because that's what's happening and why these articles get written and what we should be discussing.

Team goal: call out bad behavior by men and boys, in an effort to denormalize the behaviors that lead to violence against women.

Cool?

Re:‘We don’t have to feel like prey’: the female joggers run... by bm3719 on Friday September 23, 2022 @10:45AM (#32952624)
This can be true (and I think it is for certain individuals) and one can still be a proponent of the right to have a choice whether to be a passive victim or take responsibility for one's own physical security. Personally, I'd rather do the latter.

There's also a case to be made that mathematically, you're likely to have a short career as a mugger if one out of every, say, 5 individuals you target is likely to be armed. After all, why don't muggers target police officers?

Re:‘We don’t have to feel like prey’: the female joggers run... by arise on Friday September 23, 2022 @01:57PM (#32955141)
Wrong metric: you're assuming the safety of a violent assailant matters. And it does, just not near as much as an innocent. You must weight by justice.
Re:‘We don’t have to feel like prey’: the female joggers run... by pipeline_peak on Friday September 23, 2022 @09:18AM (#32951522)
A lot of US gun owners are too prideful, they simply want the freedom to carry. Telling them there’s risk in that only taunts them because they want to feel they’re protecting their family.