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Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by karaterobot on Thursday September 22, 2022 @07:49PM (#32946136)
Crypto is very popular among people working in rich countries who send remittances back to their families in other countries. That's a legitimate use, a very popular use, and is obviously what Stripe is going for here.
Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by hef19898 on Friday September 23, 2022 @02:33AM (#32948730)
Isn't that what Western Union is doing, rather well and gobally?
Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by karaterobot on Friday September 23, 2022 @04:23PM (#32956611)
I don't know if this product will successfully compete with Western Union.
Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by lawgimenez on Thursday September 22, 2022 @08:48PM (#32946572)
I'm not sure where you got this info from but my relatives in the US sends money via Xoom. Nobody's touching crypto.
Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by djbusby on Thursday September 22, 2022 @09:15PM (#32946803)
TransferWise, now just Wise works awesome too.
Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by mudrockbestgirl on Thursday September 22, 2022 @11:22PM (#32947642)
Not only much more expensive and slower than crypto, but also not permissionless. I had funds frozen up for before because of an identity/location verification misunderstanding. It was all sorted out through customer support, but it took a week. Closed my account after that because I don't want to take that risk, I just want to transfer funds without middleman hassle.

Great as long as it works for you. Just wait until you yourself are stuck in a situation such as "Google locked my account and I can't reach support", "Stripe banned my business for no good reason" or "Wise froze my funds" - you literally see these threads on HN every week. Crypto suddenly starts to look a lot more appealing once you've experienced these situations yourself.

Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by refsab on Thursday September 22, 2022 @09:30PM (#32946917)
I'm using Binance P2P. By far the cheapest way to transfer funds from rich to poor countries.

Have used Wise in the past because it's very convenient to use but they are just extremely expensive compared to P2P crypto.

Also they don't support many countries or only support one direction.

Not a crypto bro and very critical of crypto fads normally but this use case actually works for a regular person like me.

Going to try Xoom though and check their rates. Hadn't heard of them.

Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by arcticbull on Thursday September 22, 2022 @10:19PM (#32947242)
The reason that Binance is able to charge less is because they're not really regulated and they're able to pass that risk directly on to you.
Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by lawgimenez on Thursday September 22, 2022 @09:42PM (#32947011)
I think this is a good place to check the rates: https://www.xoom.com/philippines/send-money
Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by lawgimenez on Thursday September 22, 2022 @09:41PM (#32947002)
Yes but my relatives are old-ish and not the tech type.
Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by jfghi on Thursday September 22, 2022 @08:10PM (#32946295)
Once the remittance is received, how is it then exchanged for the currency the recipient needs?
Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by skybrian on Thursday September 22, 2022 @11:13PM (#32947589)
Here's a pretty in-depth article about how things work in Argentina. I know nothing other than what's in the article, but apparently, many of the local black market exchanges ("cuevas") use cryptocurrency internally (instead of carrying stacks of US dollars around on motorcycles) and will exchange crypto for cash for their customers.

https://www.freethink.com/technology/crypto-argentina-black-...

Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by rafaelm on Thursday September 22, 2022 @08:20PM (#32946380)
From my own experience, you can use a very popular exchange that has a huge P2P marketplace, precisely for this.
Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by missedthecue on Thursday September 22, 2022 @08:28PM (#32946438)
What is this marketplace named?
Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by refsab on Thursday September 22, 2022 @09:36PM (#32946959)
It's Binance P2P. You can transfer crypto directly into local currency. It uses local residents as liquidity providers.
Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by rafaelm on Thursday September 22, 2022 @11:10PM (#32947574)
Yep that's it. I just didn't want it to look like I was shilling something in the comments :)

Locally, Binance P2P is used a lot for remittances, and plenty of establishments use it as a way to receive payments as well. I've seen the Binance QR code in a bunch of restaurants and autoparts stores, for example

I used it earlier this year to send money to my sister in Argentina. Super fast, no fuss.

Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by throw101010 on Thursday September 22, 2022 @11:36PM (#32947727)
Just to balance this, Bisq is a decentralized alternative P2P marketplace (based on Bitcoin mainly) which will keep working even in adverse conditions, where a centralized company like Binance will generally restrict/stop their activity if a government shows their teeth.
Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by yao420 on Friday September 23, 2022 @12:28AM (#32948069)
Coinbase closed their remittance project due to absolutely minuscule usage. Like a couple thousand of dollars a month or value being transferred.

If the biggest player in the crypto space can’t get enough users, I’m doubting any real adoption.

Re:Expanding access to the future of work with crypto payouts by crypt1d on Friday September 23, 2022 @03:38AM (#32949045)
Let's not mistake Coinbase's ability to execute for a lack of user interest. If anything, Coinbase has plenty of failed projects under their belt (and while they are certainly popular in the US, they are not the 'biggest player' by any measure).