Re:Moving on from Rails
by hello_moto on Wednesday November 30, 2011 @10:29AM
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I think this is true but in my experience, they are what most people call "Application Developers".
Linus is still writing code in C even for a simple GUI app that wxPython can do for him quickly.
Josh Bloch is still writing code in Java since 97/98?.
Crockford/Resig will probably never write software in a language other than JavaScript.
Your Application Developer will quickly move to the latest trend spreading HackerNews.
So if you want to be famous writing frameworks or tools, make sure you hit frontpage of HN.
thought the same, like he says PHP was shit and still is (which is partly true) but then delivers CRUD Tasks, ORMs etc as the reason for Rails which also are very popular in all other frameworks for other languages nowadays.
Re:Moving on from Rails
by dextorious on Wednesday November 30, 2011 @12:39PM
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"""but then delivers CRUD Tasks, ORMs etc as the reason for Rails which also are very popular in all other frameworks for other languages nowadays."""
The might be popular for "other languages nowadays", but he delivers those as a reason of Rails success BACK IN THE DAY.
And indeed it was. Not many PHP ORMS and scaffolding frameworks existed or where successful back then.
This seems to be a recurring pattern with developers who have "discovered" design and architecture through frameworks and can not seem to separate that from the tools used.