Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
by csunbird on Thursday September 22, 2022 @05:01AM
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For EU, Whatsapp actually solved a different problem, as SMS already existed to send messages to offline people: You could fit tenfold amount of messages to an mobile data subscription to a SMS package that you can get from your mobile data provider. It was so cheap and whatsapp also had more features.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
by hansel_der on Friday September 23, 2022 @03:45AM
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> To this day, when you want guaranteed delivery, in order and without duplicates WhatsApp runs circles around its competitors.
idk about slack et.al. but telegram does that with native clients for linux, android, ios and windows. even media-sync is pretty much flawless ime.
THAT was what was needed for mobile devices. I remember trying to use MSN messenger when I was on WAP and it sucked. And then I remember Skype on iPhone sucked for messages too. SMS also wasn't great if you were remotely international and had friends and family not in the same country as you.
It took two whole years for Skype to rearchitect away from peer to peer (understandably so).
To this day, when you want guaranteed delivery, in order and without duplicates WhatsApp runs circles around its competitors.
Compare that with Slack which both on desktop and mobile regularly has weird issues with successfully delivering a message.
Ultimately avatars are nice to have and later on top of a reliable messaging service but otherwise I'd take boring old text over flaky rich messaging every day of the week.