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Re:2160p resolution is now premium feature on YouTube by liminalsunset on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @11:53PM (#32934626)
A counterpoint to this is that as someone notes: Do you really need 4K on a phone?

I've always thought that just as a matter of "manners" one should attempt to use as little of a limited resource as possible - especially when using perhaps internet or worse, cellular data or radio spectrum.

Back when Google did the whole "we will set the default resolution lower" thing at the beginning of the pandemic, were YouTube users en masse pissed off at the lower quality, or did they even notice? I would argue that most people would not be scrutinizing the video, especially if they were not full screened, at which point the resolution may as well be wasted.

I'm not necessarily defending paywalling the feature, but I do think there is validity into pushing users into a lower qulity funnel for reasons beyond simple greed.

On the other hand, I watch most of the videos I watch in windowed theater mode in 1440p on my 4K screen. I find that 1440p is the best quality that does not cause frequent seeking in the video to lag, and I tend to do this a lot to skip for example, sponsor segments and other "fluff” manually. I'm on fiber internet, so it's probably got something to do with either YouTube or my computer's video decode pipeline

Re:2160p resolution is now premium feature on YouTube by zimpenfish on Thursday September 22, 2022 @01:39AM (#32935138)
> A counterpoint to this is that as someone notes: Do you really need 4K on a phone?

The reply further down was "I'm streaming it from my phone to my TV" which would be a definite use case for wanting 4K on a phone.

Re:2160p resolution is now premium feature on YouTube by liminalsunset on Thursday September 22, 2022 @01:51AM (#32935176)
I was under the impression that on Android, Chromecasting typically doesn't send the actual video but rather asks the Chromecast to play locally, but I suppose this problem still exists then
Re:2160p resolution is now premium feature on YouTube by rieTohgh6 on Thursday September 22, 2022 @03:55AM (#32935971)
It think it is the same with TV apps, totally killing app on phone doesn't do anything to the video already playing on TV.
Re:2160p resolution is now premium feature on YouTube by Mindwipe on Thursday September 22, 2022 @06:34AM (#32937042)
This is correct.

It's also how it works with Airplay 2 on iOS now.

There isn't really a use case for wanting a higher resolution to cast it elsewhere.

Re:2160p resolution is now premium feature on YouTube by victorclf on Thursday September 22, 2022 @01:59AM (#32935217)
I pick 2160p on YouTube even on a 1080p screen to reduce the awful blur in videos with any kind of motion. The downscale looks similar to a higher bitrate in that case.
Re:2160p resolution is now premium feature on YouTube by fomine3 on Thursday September 22, 2022 @02:37AM (#32935459)
Agreed. It looks relatively harmless to make it premium only.