Re:Modernity is incompatible with planetary limits: a PLAN f...
by lm28469 on Thursday September 22, 2022 @08:11AM
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> The same goods (and better goods) take less energy and pollution to produce than in 2000
But thanks to the rebound effect we make/sell/trash more of them
Like with airplanes, it doesn't matter that Rolls-Royce make their engines 5% more efficient every 10 years if in the meantime you have 4 times as many plane flying.
Re:Modernity is incompatible with planetary limits: a PLAN f...
by hikingsimulator on Thursday September 22, 2022 @05:16AM
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Do you have a current source on the decoupling claim accounting for outsourcing?
That's a good trend if true.
Re:Modernity is incompatible with planetary limits: a PLAN f...
by dane-pgp on Thursday September 22, 2022 @03:21PM
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It was true in the UK ten years ago (although this Guardian article[0] tried to downplay the success):
> The amount of greenhouse gases linked to goods and services consumed by UK households, including emissions from the foreign manufacture of imported products, rose by 3% between 2012 and 2013, the most recent data shows. But the figures are almost a fifth (19%) below the peak seen in 2007, when UK consumers were responsible for nearly 1.3bn tonnes of greenhouse gases.
[0] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/aug/02/uks-carb...
The same goods (and better goods) take less energy and pollution to produce than in 2000, and a lot of physical goods have been effectively replaced with features in digital devices; and the main part of GDP growth for developed countries does not involve any growth in consumption of goods but rather the consumption of services - the shift from an industrial economy to a service economy has quite fundamental impact on the nature of growth.