Re:Putin orders partial Russian mobilisation, warns West ove...
by foverzar on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @05:43AM
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> and replacing their dead laptop costs a year’s wages
You don't really realise what you're talking about, or did you confuse Russia with Australia?
Re:Putin orders partial Russian mobilisation, warns West ove...
by foverzar on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @10:05AM
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Would anyone decent enough to actually respond instead of silent minusing, tell me how dead laptop replacement can start costing year's wages, when it's assembled right near the border?
Cuz it really looks like people either have no idea where exactly Russia is (and where the global production centers are) or somehow imply closed borders.
Re:Putin orders partial Russian mobilisation, warns West ove...
by trasz on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @10:29AM
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Because at some point the manufacturers will need to choose whether to comply with sanctions, or get cut of the Western markets. Russian market is relatively worthless, so it's not a hard choice, and we're already seeing Chinese vendors leaving Russia.
Re:Putin orders partial Russian mobilisation, warns West ove...
by Andrew_nenakhov on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @11:55AM
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Vendors are greedy and sanctions are relatively easy to dodge, especially if the customs are told not to interfere too thoroughly. If anything, Apple hardware in Russia now costs ~20% less than it did in January. iPhone 14 is already available, too. Maybe the situation will change in the future, but no sooner than when EU will stop buying oil and gas from Putin.
Re:Putin orders partial Russian mobilisation, warns West ove...
by trasz on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @03:09PM
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Vendors being greedy doesn't explain why they would risk losing access to a very profitable markets for a worthless one.
Sanctions are slow. Kazakhstan, for example, only blocked truck transit from EU to Russia a couple days ago.
Re:Putin orders partial Russian mobilisation, warns West ove...
by Andrew_nenakhov on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @06:10PM
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Vendors do not risk anything. They offload the shipment to a real buyer who then transports goods without vendor officially knowing anything. This buyer can very well be a company established for this one shipment, so no ends are ever found.
And regarding Kazakhstan and transit problems - it has nothing to do with sanctions. See this article with more or less coherent explanation of an issue [0] (it's in Russian but Google translate should help)
[0]: https://iz.ru/1397573/anastasiia-lvova-elnar-bainazarov/gruz...
Sanctions have little effect on everyday life initially. People can just keep coasting just like the character that ran past the edge of the cliff.
For example why does the average person care if car manufacturing has halted? They have a car already! Chances are that the car they ordered months ago was completed anyway with parts in stock.
It’s when the Kuka robots and Siemens machinery starts breaking down in factories that things start heading downwards.
Still… a downwards trajectory isn’t the same as an instant change! It takes years for the impact to really bite.
Smuggling will help cover some shortages, but at a cost.
Real exchange rates will get increasingly bad.
Russians will simply skip their holidays next year, hold on to their phones and computers a bit longer and live life like normal…
… until they realise they can’t legally enter half the countries in the world, flights are unaffordable and take a route via China, and replacing their dead laptop costs a year’s wages.
Just like the good old communist days Putin longs for.