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Re:GeForce RTX 40 Series by ftufek on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @03:18PM (#32916513)
While I do wish they priced lower, I think when you put things into perspective, it blows my mind that I can buy a card with 76 billion transistors(!) for just 1600$. I suspect the demand for top of the line RTXs will come from enthusiast gamers and ML researchers/startups. Most gamers would be more than fine with 3090 which handles almost anything. The market will be very interesting to watch.
Re:GeForce RTX 40 Series by mechanical_bear on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @04:00PM (#32916991)
> handles almost anything

What is something it can’t handle?

Re:GeForce RTX 40 Series by skiddo on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @07:35PM (#32919189)
Virtually any contemporary game with maximum settings will struggle to maintain 4k120 without a sacrifice on my 3090. Cranking the render scale in WoW to 6K or 8K (retail or Classic) will easily push the GPU to 100% and drop fps to around 60.
Re:GeForce RTX 40 Series by ftufek on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @04:07PM (#32917097)
Gaming-wise, I think the 3090 struggles at 8k and 4k 144hz gaming, which is very high end gaming experience and people that spend the money on those monitors will spend the money on the 4090.

For other purposes (like scientific computing/ml), while 3090 can do a lot of things that 4090 does, it's half the speed (or even slower) and a lot less energy efficient, say 1x4090 = 2x3090, 4090 uses 450W, dual 3090 uses 700W, of course you can power limit both of them further, but you still get best bang for your buck out of the 4090.

Re:GeForce RTX 40 Series by paulmd on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @04:25PM (#32917301)
Also VR. I know VR people with a 3090 who grumble about it not really being fast enough for them.
Re:GeForce RTX 40 Series by edude03 on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @05:30PM (#32918062)
What games are they running?! While I know not top of the line - I can run the HTC VIVE pro 2 at 5k@120hz at max visual settings in beatsaber on a 2060 based gaming laptop.
Re:GeForce RTX 40 Series by badlucklottery on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @03:00AM (#32921647)
>beatsaber

Beatsaber is a great game but the graphics aren't very stressful (nor do they need to be).

Keep in mind people are also starting to mod VR into more and more new PC games that were never designed for it. Stuff like Elden Ring, FF7R, the Resident Evil remakes, etc.

Re:GeForce RTX 40 Series by SergeAx on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @07:31PM (#32919156)
What's your experience with HalfLife Alyx?
Re:GeForce RTX 40 Series by ranguna on Wednesday September 21, 2022 @03:25AM (#32921786)
90+ fps on an rtx 2070 super egpu
Re:GeForce RTX 40 Series by ahoho on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @04:27PM (#32917331)
For ML, the bottleneck is often memory, which is the same between those cards.