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Re:Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair by majani on Monday September 19, 2022 @03:52PM (#32903049)
It would matter if it was highlighted. People care about repairability of expensive items. Admittedly, it is a secondary concern, but I would say it is probably the top secondary concern
Re:Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair by hot_gril on Monday September 19, 2022 @04:34PM (#32903559)
A secondary concern is resale value. Repairability isn't even that. To put it one way, even if you could repair an iPhone with legos, I think it'd sway few to zero buyers from an alternative.
Re:Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair by frio on Monday September 19, 2022 @06:15PM (#32904866)
While I somewhat agree, the big repair that most people are going to want to do pre- or post- sale is replacing the battery. If that's something that anyone can do now, it'll improve resale value.
Re:Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair by hot_gril on Monday September 19, 2022 @07:23PM (#32905520)
I used to think this, but then all the Android phone-makers that used to tout user-removable batteries started gluing them in like Apple does, which sounded like the market speaking.

Maybe it's not all that hard to replace the glued-in batteries anyway. Seems every mall has two tiny mid-hallway shops that can do it.

Re:Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair by kaba0 on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @02:23AM (#32908347)
If I have to choose between easy-to-replace batteries and water resistance, I will go with the latter. Of course if both are possible, I would be very happy, but I just don’t see an engineering way for that in such a compact body as phones. Also, batteries are no longer 1-2 inches heigh, they are often odd-shaped to fill all the rest of the phone body.
Re:Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair by restore_creole_ on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @10:45AM (#32912358)
Samsung still manages to do both removable batteries and water resistance in their Galaxy XCover line but I suppose thickness, weight, etc. are more important for the average consumer.
Re:Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair by colejohnson66 on Monday September 19, 2022 @07:50PM (#32905735)
Samsung mocked Apple for removing the 3.5mm jack, but a few months later, did it themselves. Because the majority of consumers don’t care enough to do anything about it.
Re:Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair by dylan604 on Monday September 19, 2022 @04:10PM (#32903247)
Is it? Most people that might be concerned just pay for Apple Care, and then let Apple repair it. Only the 1% of people that are techy/nerdy enough to even try this are even bothered by this.
Re:Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair by lukas099 on Monday September 19, 2022 @11:45PM (#32907434)
This is about speed, not cost of repair. The selling point of Apple Care is that it takes the stress out of your phone breaking.

When my sister's iPhone's screen broke, she took it to the Apple Store at the mall to use her Apple Care benefits. When they gave her some enormous time estimate, she marched to the iFixUrPhone stand and they did it in an hour. I believe Apple knows that this is a problem and is taking some preliminary steps to fix it. That's what this play is about.

Re:Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair by dylan604 on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @12:32AM (#32907684)
Yeah, you kind of need to make an appointment through their app. When you do that, you walk in, they find you a person, then it takes about the same hour.

I'm honestly surprised they even accepted you as a walk-in

Re:Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair by lukas099 on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @12:54AM (#32907801)
This still follows my point that when you buy Apple Care, you are paying for your phone breaking to be a non-stressful event. Having to find a working device, make an appointment, wait for your appointment (while your anxiety about being phoneless builds up), remember the appointment, and be on time is not nearly as nice an experience as walking up to a table at the mall you've never talked to before and getting it fixed right there for cash.

Side note: I don't remember saying she was a walk-in. I don't know if she was; I'll have to ask her.

Re:Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair by dylan604 on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @09:54AM (#32911687)
>(while your anxiety about being phoneless builds up)

This is a truly terrifying thing to me about today's younger generations that have "always had" a device and have use the social platforms just as long. I don't mean for that to sound patronizing or belittling. It is just so out of my own experience it is hard for me to empathize, but I do sympathize as I realize that some of that dependancy was/is intentionally juiced by the social platforms.

Re:Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair by lukas099 on Friday September 30, 2022 @04:12PM (#33040142)
It's not just that, but also knowing that one's spouse might be trying to call and getting frustrated. Or needing the phone for 2FA.
Re:Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair by fomine3 on Monday September 19, 2022 @10:05PM (#32906778)
Perhaps it's true for richer people in the developed world. 3rd party repair shop is a thing in worldwide.