Re:Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann in the second...
by googlryas on Monday September 19, 2022 @02:55PM
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Communication could be done entirely invisibly from an outsiders perspective. For example, embedded electrodes sensing when one clenched their jaw muscles.
My brother and I did this magic trick and convinced our grade school we had ESP... the mark tells brother a secret number. I put my hands on brothers head and without communicating I tell what the secret number was. It was just the number of times he clenched his jaw.
Re:Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann in the second...
by lairv on Monday September 19, 2022 @03:26PM
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Put them in a room without window or any exterior interactions, 4 cameras in each corner, wifi/radio signal jammer, 10 minutes delay with livestream, I would honestly pay respect to Hans if he can still cheat in those conditions
Re:Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann in the second...
by googlryas on Monday September 19, 2022 @05:18PM
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Is wifi even necessary? Could one embed a chip which does chess inference somewhere in one's body?
Re:Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann in the second...
by JohnBooty on Monday September 19, 2022 @03:52PM
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If one was willing to go as far as devices implanted into the body, it's somewhat easy to imagine inputs via normal-looking fidgeting: toe taps, even perhaps clenching some body part.
While not trivial, it doesn't feel like the hardest part of that particular engineering challenge.
Re:Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann in the second...
by dylan604 on Monday September 19, 2022 @06:17PM
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This being HN, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that they could build an OpenCV system to watch a match in progress over a weekend.
Re:Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann in the second...
by awb on Monday September 19, 2022 @02:59PM
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At GM levels the matches are typically broadcast live and/or have an audience, so it would only require an observer to input the moves.
Re:Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann in the second...
by chongli on Monday September 19, 2022 @03:13PM
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This can be counteracted by broadcasting with a delay, something I believe they already do. It may be the case that the delay needs to be increased.
Re:Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann in the second...
by awb on Monday September 19, 2022 @04:08PM
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Chess turns can take 20+ minutes sometimes depending on the time limit of the game, so that would be quite a delay, and then you would still have a problem with a live audience.
Re:Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann in the second...
by ninju on Monday September 19, 2022 @06:54PM
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How about a 'turn-delay'... the broadcast field is always three turns delayed rather than a static time delay
Re:Magnus Carlsen resigns against Hans Niemann in the second...
by awb on Monday September 19, 2022 @08:16PM
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Well if there's 3 rapid fire exchanges (trading Queens & Rooks for example) lasting 10 seconds total, followed by a 20 min move, then the broadcast would have to freeze frame on the 1st move in the rapid fire sequence, so as to stay 3 moves behind, with the last 2 "hidden" moves evident to all that the pieces will be traded.
The players should be required to strip down to their underwear and wear elegant tournament-provided kimonos and slippers.