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Re:Unicode character “ꙮ” (U+A66E) is being updated by yakireev on Monday September 19, 2022 @01:58PM (#32901663)
One could argue that emoji should have never been added to Unicode in the first place. Peaches and butts are images, pictures, illustrations, whatever - but they are not characters. There's no writing system which has a colored drawing of a peach as a character.
Re:Unicode character “ꙮ” (U+A66E) is being updated by PeterisP on Monday September 19, 2022 @05:06PM (#32903955)
Yes there is - a widely used character set (when Unicode talks about "writing systems" it explicitly includes all the computer character sets used in practice pre-unicode) used by japanese 'featurephones' had emoji characters, so in order to be able to include that character set in unicode, unicode had to add emoji.
Re:Unicode character “ꙮ” (U+A66E) is being updated by squeaky-clean on Monday September 19, 2022 @07:45PM (#32905691)
They're sort of neither. The peach emoji will render differently on iOS, Android, Windows. And I'm sure emoji-replacement packs are possible on Windows and Android (even though it's also guaranteed to be a virus).

So a peach emoji is not the same thing as the iOS peach-emoji-image. Similar to how changing my font doesn't change the actual characters.

I don't think including emojis was a great idea, but now that it's happened and people everywhere use them, emoji have become characters. I agree with your point, but it's already happened and so now there's not really any going back.

Re:Unicode character “ꙮ” (U+A66E) is being updated by bzxcvbn on Monday September 19, 2022 @04:58PM (#32903869)
Yes there is. We're using it right now. Even linguists are studying the use of emoji today.
Re:Unicode character “ꙮ” (U+A66E) is being updated by eternityforest on Monday September 19, 2022 @04:24PM (#32903432)
But that doesn't change the fact that most people use them snd like them, and there is not much technical disruption. They just chose practicality over purity.
Re:Unicode character “ꙮ” (U+A66E) is being updated by bawolff on Monday September 19, 2022 @07:32PM (#32905595)
Not only that - people use them in textual communication the way letters traditionally are used. There is probably a lot better argument for emoiji than a lot of other things in unicode (but it is a slippery slope)
Re:Unicode character “ꙮ” (U+A66E) is being updated by yakireev on Monday September 19, 2022 @04:50PM (#32903789)
Most people (me included) like funny cat videos and send funny cat videos. Shall we include some to Unicode?

I mean, this ship has long sailed, but that was a mistake nevertheless. Not everything has to be a unicode character.

Re:Unicode character “ꙮ” (U+A66E) is being updated by kadoban on Monday September 19, 2022 @08:19PM (#32905967)
If there were specific funny cat videos that were culturally relevent, maybe.

For example I could see there being an emoji for keyboard cat.

Re:Unicode character “ꙮ” (U+A66E) is being updated by eternityforest on Monday September 19, 2022 @09:10PM (#32906402)
That wouldn't be practical. It would make fonts too big, and videos aren't a thing that goes inline in text.

However, I could totally see some kind of open source GIF library of a few hundred meme videos and pictures, to standardize the "Reply with a GIF" thing in some P2P chat ecosystem, and maybe it could have a new URL scheme for referring to OpenMemes images.

Re:Unicode character “ꙮ” (U+A66E) is being updated by hoseja on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @04:16AM (#32909033)
You can have entire sentences constructed out of emoji.