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Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by scarface74 on Saturday September 17, 2022 @09:06PM (#32883347)
Is Twitter the only way to communicate over the Internet?

Why is a “social media” company headed by the most popular “conservative” in America failing?

Why can’t FoxNews create its own social media company?

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by cowtools on Saturday September 17, 2022 @09:11PM (#32883380)
Pulled from payment processor, DDoS protection, etc.

"If they don't like it, why can't they just create their own internet that we will not be able to access?"

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by scarface74 on Saturday September 17, 2022 @09:14PM (#32883402)
That’s not why Truth Social is failing

https://time.com/6209392/truth-social-financial-problems-tru...

Trump is supposedly a billionaire. He couldn’t fund the equivalent of Cloudflare if he desires? He couldn’t find enough like minded investors?

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by cowtools on Saturday September 17, 2022 @09:32PM (#32883495)
Sorry, I confused truth social with another website called gab.

In any case they are simply mastodon forks, are they not? I can't see why it would require massive funding. I don't think the failure of truth social speaks to the failure of "splinter" forums at large.

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by scarface74 on Saturday September 17, 2022 @11:43PM (#32884217)
Conservatives love the free market. Truth Social is showing the free market voting with its dollars
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by catiopatio on Saturday September 17, 2022 @10:28PM (#32883833)
What does that have to do with my question — or anything else I’ve said?

What word should we use to describe the viewpoint-based prohibition of someone’s speech?

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by scarface74 on Saturday September 17, 2022 @11:42PM (#32884214)
A private company gets to decide its own policy? If the government wants a platform where everyone can say whatever it wants it’s free to create a government funded platform.

Alternatively, conservatives are all about the free market. Let them create a platform where their views can be heard.

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by catiopatio on Sunday September 18, 2022 @12:05AM (#32884323)
Why should we grant private companies the novel privilege of being shielded from liability for what they publish, if they're not willing to guarantee public access to their platform in return?
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by scarface74 on Sunday September 18, 2022 @12:47AM (#32884512)
A private company has never been required to guarantee access to anyone as long as they don’t discriminate because of a “protected status”. Political speech is not a protected status. Does Christian mingle have to allow Muslims? Is RedState - that has banned me twice for not towing the line - forced to allow me to voice my viewpoint? Is the NRA forced to publish discussion about gun control?
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by catiopatio on Sunday September 18, 2022 @01:01AM (#32884563)
That’s a completely incorrect assertion.

Common carriers are private companies required to guarantee non-discriminatory access to the public.

They do this in exchange for a shield from liability for what the public says/does/transfers via their service.

The legal framework for this dates back to English common law, and applies to telephone companies, airlines, freight carriers, taxi companies, and just about any other company that provides public services under the privilege of a government-granted shield from liability.

The only companies of this type that this doesn’t apply to are ”interactive computer service” providers, because they were granted a special privilege cut out in the Communication Decency Act of 1996, while we asked for nothing in return [1].

That’s the issue, here.

If the NRA wants to launch an “interactive computer service” that publishes user content, then yes, I think they should be forced to either accept liability for what they publish, or accept they they must serve the public without viewpoint discrimination.

If RedState wants to host a comment section, then I think the same rule should apply to them, too.

ISPs, too. This is the fundamental concept on which all arguments for net neutrality rest.

[1] Not entirely true; the liability shield of the Communications Decency Act was intended to counterbalance the criminalization of user transmission of “obscene or indecent” material on the internet.

The indecency clauses were struck down by the courts, leaving the privileges and none of the responsibilities.

The whole law was a broken, idiotic idea and should have been scrapped entirely.

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by vel0city on Sunday September 18, 2022 @02:09AM (#32884878)
Your problem is, Facebook and Twitter are 100% an "interactive computer service", through and through. They're not common carriers in the slightest.
Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by catiopatio on Sunday September 18, 2022 @03:01AM (#32885158)
Yes, I know. I literally just articulated, in the comment you're replying to:

(1) That the invented classification was a mistake, and should be rectified, and

(2) How that invented classification — and the privileges it granted — was made in trade for something we never received (and never should have asked for): criminalization of “obscene or indecent” material on the internet.

I'm not sure whose arguments you believe you're rebutting, but they're not mine.

Re:U.S. appeals court rejects big tech’s right to regulate o... by scarface74 on Sunday September 18, 2022 @05:38AM (#32885956)
So now you want a law that if you host any type of comment section on the internet that the government can force you to allow any type of comments? You really don’t have a problem with the government taking your rights away?