Your comment reads as a personal attack. I remain hopeful enough to consider the possibility.

I see such a divide in politics today that make me worry that "democracy" itself here is doomed. And attempts at dialog here in HN never bear fruit.

We have on record one party proclaiming that their primary goal is to let the other party succeed, e.g., party over country.

Just that comment alone will bring out the voiceless downvotes that are personally offended by it and refuse to discuss the details in a non-partisan manner.

I'd love to be proven wrong here, but I'm going with past experience and it's not encouraging.

I'm simply pointing out the net effect of the resolution/learned helplessness of seeing the situation as "Never" going to be resolved.